User talk:Swampert rox/Talk page archive/1

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Plants vs. Zombies Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Magic Taco page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- JoePlay (Talk) 19:12, November 3, 2009

Why did I change the Gallery of Zombies?
On second thought, I guess it wasn't such a good idea. Thanks for your edits, by the way. I changed it back, except with a few minor revisions; for one, I made a correction in the language, and for the other change, I changed Regular Zombie back to Zombie. That's what it's called in the Suburban Almanac, that's it's name, and that's what we're going to call it.--RandomguY 02:03, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

Regarding the Newspaper Zombie
The newspaper is indeed useless against the fume-shroom and gloom-shroom. Why? Because they hit EVERY SINGLE ENEMY TARGET in their area, no matter how many newspapers or screen doors they have. --RandomguY 06:52, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Newspaper Zombie
Right now, I'm thinking that the newspaper has lower health than the zombie itself. I'll confirm it later.--RandomguY 23:21, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

OK, I've confirmed it. The puff-shroom and the fume-shroom both do the same damage per shot (=1 pea); this can be confirmed by the fact that both kill a normal zombie in 10 shots. However, a fume-shroom kills a newspaper in 8 or 7 shots and kills the newspaper zombie 2-3 shots later, for 10 shots total; the puff-shroom takes about 8 shots to kill a newspaper and kills the zombie many more shots later; I would assume it's 10. Thus, the newspaper does nothing; it simply has less health, making you think that it can block.--RandomguY 23:21, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Why is the newspaper damaged
because the spores attack everything that is not a plant of yours, including newspapers and screen doors...and ladders.

Questions for you
1. See strategy guide. What is "crazy dave level" supposed to mean? It's a MINIGAME. Crazy Dave just introduces it. 2. It would be helpful if you gave reasons for deletion. I agree with the current deletes, but...

Your wiki is not listed
The reason that wiki was started and was unaware of your wiki is because your not on this list. May want to get a helper to fix that. Devilmanozzy  (Talk page)  14:30, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

Responses :)
1. Not sure what to say here, so I didn't respond. 2. OK. 3. See 1. 4. See 1. 5. I'm not in the mood. Maybe I'll change my mind later. --RandomguY 22:52, November 30, 2009 (UTC)

So...
Correct. --RandomguY 02:35, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

OK
Good work on the article deletions, by the way. I'll be sure to remind you if I want to be adminified :) --RandomguY 00:31, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Notice
Check the talk page for Peashooters.--RandomguY 01:31, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Catapult Zombie
What was the purpose of changing the order of the links for the Catapult Zombie page?--RandomguY 01:38, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Oops
I mean spikeweed, not Catapult Zombie. I hope you understood that part about the Peashooter talk.--RandomguY 01:52, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Peashooters-Repeaters are better for taking out coneheads than peashooters, and plus, you don't need as much space; if you plant extra peashooters, the first one will end up closer to the start of the lawn, giving the zombies a better chance to kill. Plus, you'll replace the peashooters with repeaters anyway, so you might as well save sun. In addition, again, you can bypass peashooters with potato mines and go straight to the Repeaters, saving you sun overall AND giving you more in the initial ramp-up, so you can get your sunflowers up earlier.--RandomguY 02:02, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Peashooters
Comments on my strategy/ideas involving peashooters?--RandomguY 23:34, December 2, 2009 (UTC)

Peashooters (2)
Compromise?

Hi
Hi, I have just registered.- Registered Contributor

ZomBotany 2
erm...you haven't had any difficulty with it with your setup?

How are you killing the tall-nut zombies? (Note: I haven't actually tried it yet :) )

---with PEASHOOTERS???

Random Users
Hello again. I'm under the impression (don't know if you thought of this too) that the users whose talk page you edited actually edited a now-deleted page.--RandomguY 05:23, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Grave
Instead of constantly undoing each others edits, please discuss the Grave page with Registered Contributor. It's much more constructive. I made a message on the talk page, but I'm putting it here to MAKE SURE you see it.--RandomguY 00:28, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Umbrella Leaf
Your setup has one fewer sunflower than mine, and the same number of offensive plants...so I believe that mine is better and that, no offense, but we should ignore yours completely. Plus, the extra sunflower (and a tradeoff of an unnecessary umbrella leaf for a sunflower, giving 75 extra sun plus the extra production) makes my defense more solid, with a faster setup.--RandomguY 23:50, December 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, I agree that it is a matter of preference, but (no offense), I can't figure out why anybody would prefer your setup. It's like refusing to become rich without having anybody else lose anything because of your turning rich.--RandomguY 02:51, December 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't see why there's more room for offensive plants. My setup has one fewer umbrella leaf and one extra sunflower, with a net difference of zero plants. Plus, everything is still protected. If you still have too much sun, I guess I can't argue anything except that perhaps I would get my plants up more quickly. Actually, I usually go straight to melon-pults, so I need all the sun I can get in the beginning. You probably don't, though, and a lot of others probably don't, so I guess it doesn't matter too much.--RandomguY 02:55, December 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * I didn't know I could do that. I guess you do have more space initially, but that 25 sun isn't that much :) That's actually the best argument I can come up with, since my design (as I see it) is only slightly superior to yours, especially with your extra sun.--RandomguY 03:02, December 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * Meh. Agreed. Perhaps we should leave comments on each one's advantages; yours has more space in the beginning, but mine has more sun in the beginning.--RandomguY 03:06, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Favorite Plant Template?
There should be "Favorite Plant" templates for users to put on their user pages.

It would be an infobox, and the plant's image would appear next to "This user's favorite plant is [Plant Name]"

Questions, thoughts, comments?

I like the idea, thanks for making them.--Registered Contributor 00:50, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

New Pages
What are the new pages with names like "$1" and "$2"? --Registered Contributor 00:50, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Twin Sunflower Image
I think that I accidentally deleted the image of the Twin Sunflower from the Gallery of Plants. I managed to get another one, but it is now slightly smaller than the other pictures. Can you try to replace it?--Registered Contributor 01:40, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
Assuming you celebrate it of course. Oh, and good work on the templates and such. You are a very good admin.--RandomguY 06:54, December 25, 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll do my best. --RandomguY 00:27, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * Btw, you might want to update your user page, specifically on the "only admin" part.--RandomguY 05:16, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

Block of Me
I saw that you had blocked me from editing any more on this wiki. At first i was completely baffled as to why since I thought myself innocent to any offence. I crosschecked with all my edits and realized that it might be my Imitater edit that got med blocked. My intention was to change the double "he" further down on the page, but I also managed to hit the new line button twice, which was not my intention. RandomguY seems to have missed the double "he" edit when he changed it back to its original form. You can see that I have made some "not-gibberishly" edits beforehand: http://plantsvszombies.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/213.100.48.73.

I now ask you to revoke your block as it definitely isn't my intention to cause harm. If you still find it appropriate to let my block persist, then I won't bother you any more.

My IP is 213.100.48.73.


 * In light of this entry, I remind you that not all "vandalism", as in this case, is intentional; in this case, it was a mistake. Yes, I missed the second he. Most people are trying to help, and most people make mistakes; I suggest that the next time you detect "vandalism" that isn't obvious vandalism (for example, obvious vandalism would be replacing a page with JDSKLFJEKXLIV or something. Non-obvious vandalism would be changing a word to another that doesn't really make sense.) you should discuss it with the user. Anyway, I see the "unblock" option in the block log. The winter melon page was probably bad wording, and, looking into the block log, which is on the "Blocked IP addresses and usernames" page, you seem to have blocked a few people who may have simply been misled somehow. There are really 3 cases when someone inserts what you believe is vandalism, apart from the vandalism case. The first is that it is a mistake. The second is that the person believes it is true. The third is that the person is not...quite as professional...as we are, so to speak. Vandalism isn't actually quite that common; as I said, most people are good and trying to help; otherwise, Wikipedia would have crashed from the start, not to mention the bigger wikis connected to Wikia Central; we are lucky here, with dedicated users coming and going, dedicated ones such as FarmerBob, Snicker, etc. (those are mostly the ones in my time), and us. Anyway, that's getting off topic. When you ban someone, I suggest that you let them edit their own talk page so that we can discuss it.--RandomguY 18:16, January 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Much obliged for the unblock. I have now created an account, as suggested by RandomguY. English is not my native language so perhaps my sentences will not always be perfect. I have to admit that I still don't regard my Winter Melon entry as wrong, even if RandomguY's sentence sounds better. But I do know that it is called "a unique" and not "an unique" which was re-edited by swampert rox in the Tree of Wisdom page. Proof of this can be found in any book of grammar or anywhere on the Internet, e.g. here: http://wordwhirled.blogspot.com/2005/12/unique-or-unique.html. --SorkeN 20:52, January 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * Everything depends on what is meant by "the list". I meant it as being a list of plants delivering heavy damage over time and thereby efficiently wreaking havoc among the zombies, i.e. not a list of auto-fire plants — and the Cob Cannon was the last mentioned noun. Hence, the comparison would be between the Cob Cannon, the Winter Melon and the Gloom-shroom. Doesn't matter, though.--SorkeN 02:42, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Preference
By the way, I'm getting slightly irritated at seeing "a matter of preference" everywhere; as far as I know, if we don't explicitly say which method is better, it's implied that it is "a matter of preference". Anyway, nobody is forcing the readers of this wiki to use a specific strategy.--RandomguY 01:04, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Images
keep disappearing, or they keep requiring changes. Why?--RandomguY 01:31, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Pictures in signature
What's wrong with that? Football Zombie #787 ( Mobutu4 ) 01:49, February 1, 2010 (UTC)

67.168.199.62 18:34, February 8, 2010 (UTC)

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I can't create an acount, what am I doing wrong?

74.166.95.229
Why was he/she blocked?RandomguY 05:58, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * One offense, for such a long ban? And also, while it is more likely that that is false, it would make sense, as the name is closer to I, Zombie than I, Robot. In addition, he/she made non-spam other contributions, hence non-vandal.--RandomguY 00:04, February 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, people make mistakes. It's easy for someone to believe something and post it, even if the belief is incorrect. You don't have to be a vandal to post something that isn't true.--RandomguY 17:43, February 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * I doubt that. I just unblocked him. If you go to the block log (Go to the special pages page on the side-menu, and clock blocked IPs and Usernames or something), you see the blocker, time, etc. and at the end we have two options, unblock and change block.--RandomguY 18:17, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

What do you mean? They're real plants that you use in Wall-nut Bowling 2.67.168.199.62 16:19, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know how to make a new section, can you explain it to me?67.168.199.62 22:07, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

New Section
Sorry to bother you, but how do you create a new section? I couldn't find it in Help.67.168.199.62 20:06, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Never mind.67.168.199.62 21:40, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Main Page
Did you notice that the main page is stuck? For some reason it's not updating itself to accomadate for edits like it's supposed to.67.168.199.62 21:42, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Imitater
Why did you undo my edit?67.168.199.62 23:19, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Blover (and Gold Magnet) "beats"
I want to go over this Blover and Gold Magnet bounce/beat issue. It's pretty trivial (heck, it's even in the trivia section, heh), but the facts need to be presented clearly. The number of beats in anything refers to all of the beats in one cycle: for example, a song in 4/4 time is four beats per measure; your heart beats are measured in beats per minute. That said, the Blover's and Gold Magnet's BOUNCE CYCLES (one animation sequence) have four BEATS over three POSITIONS. They are: left, middle (coming from left, heading rightward), right, and middle (coming from right, heading leftward). While there are three emphasized positions, the two middle positions still have different contexts. Please check the almanac. Four beats: left, middle, right, middle. Left middle right middle. Left middle right middle. NOT three beats; NOT left, middle, right; left, middle, right; left, middle, right. Seeing as how all the music in the game is in 4/4 time and how closely the music is tied into the game*, it's clear why nothing has cycles that aren't multiples or divisors of four. So you either call it three bounce positions or four-beat bounces/cycles/animations. And I'd rather go with the latter because the former implies the plants bounce around randomly, and they definitely do not - they each have one passive animation sequence that is repeated endlessly. Also, on a less factual note, but still in support of my argument, I like to think the plants are dancing! *When there are more zombies on the field, the background music gets more intense. When you click coins, the notes may seem random, but they actually always complement the key of the background song at the time.Gary on PvZ 13:51, March 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for clearing up what you meant. Excuse the semantics, but I just gotta put the right terms in there... don't wanna be ambiguous about it.

Redirect
I created a page "Zen Marigolds" to redirect to "Zen Garden Marigold", but it won't redirect! Can you fix it, or explain how?67.168.199.62 18:17, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

Main_Page "Bejeweled" misspelled
Hello, "Bejeweled" is misspelled as "Bejewelled" in the overview of the Main_Page. This isn't publicly editable.

Age limit
Is there any way to remove this? It doesn't seem important to me, and apparently it won't let one of our users create an account.--RandomguY 02:37, March 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * It's there. It doesn't ask for you age directly; it asks for your birthday.--RandomguY 03:41, March 6, 2010 (UTC)

Are you aware...
Are you aware of the InsaniForum? We're a site based around Flying Bear/Popcap games. We have a developing PvZ section, though the site was originally based around Insaniquarium. Anyhow, I was hoping you'd join the forum. You could be our PvZ Guru, I guess. Or not. Anyway, If you do join, I'm know as Pwnly there. Give me a shout-out.

--SkullFace72 01:06, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Background
hello im new here are you incharge if you are i gotta tell you something this wikia is almost wreck and good but it would be better if it has a background i like backgrounds Spongefan2 09:21, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Conveyor-Belt Levels
We need a page explaining Conveyor-Belt Levels, as so many others refer to them. 67.168.199.62 17:53, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Search Box
There's something wrong with the search box. When you try to write in it, it sometimes takes "Search Plants vs. Zombies Wiki" as part of the search terms. As far as I can tell, it happens most on the main page. 67.168.199.62 18:12, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

User Favorite Plant 2
I created a new template for User Favorite Plant (called User Favorite Plant 2), because the original wouldn't work on the Gloom-shroom. Just though you'd like to know. 67.168.199.62 18:43, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Menu
There's something wrong with the menu--the outer pointing links (like "most visited", but not "Explore the Wiki") don't point to anything! For instance, to get to your User Page, I have to look up "Swampert Rox" in the search box (which is now working perfectly fine, for some reason) because I can't find it in the featured users link. Just thought you'd like to know. By the way, if you would explain about the deletion of the Conveyor-Belt Levels page, I would be much obliged. 67.168.199.62 19:46, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. 67.168.199.62 21:10, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Steam
Why did you block Steam from creation? 67.168.199.62 21:49, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

Wanted Pages
There are a bunch of wanted pages that exist, and others that don't appear to have any purpose whatsoever. And they won't go away. How did they get there? 67.168.199.62 21:20, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

SPE (Survival Pool:Endless) Builds
A good build for Survuval:Endless is not decided on how much space one uses, however the balance of all types of zombies it could react to and the ability to become stable. Leaving one empty space in the back rows makes it possible to use only one Gloom-shroom against Digger Zombies without harming Pumpkins. Leaving plenty of space in the front makes it easy for the Gloom-Shrooms to pin down weak zombies and saves cob launches, as well as giving off Doom-Shrooms

Try this build if you have time (I didn't make it, all pictures came from the Baidu Forum),