Board Thread:Plants vs. Zombies/@comment-33701453-20190305095505/@comment-27248259-20190316104605

TheGollddMAN wrote: The Determined Mine wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote: The Determined Mine wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote: The Determined Mine wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote: Ballistic Planet wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote:

Swaggy Shooter wrote: Lily8763cp wrote:

TheGollddMAN wrote: IDontCareAboutHistory wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote:

Tile Denial wrote: Ballistic Planet wrote:

Tile Denial wrote:

Ballistic Planet wrote: so I came back to PVZ2 with 7.2 (since I keep up with the prerelease leaks and I really like Zoybean Pod) and I've been having a blast! I got both Zoybean and Dazey Chain, and while Dazey Chain is really bad, Zoybean is super fun and actually kind of decent. Hoping to see where we go with other plants! If Pop Cap would hurry up and show us the appearances of Burnade and Mini Pea ah yes because Mini Peashooter is totally gonna break PVZ2. Mini Peashooter shouldn't even exist No, it should. If a shitty plant like Sun Bean (seriously, fuck that plant) can exist in PvZ 2, Mini Peashooter has the right to be. ftfy Sun Bean can help with levels where you want sun at that moment but your sun producers are recharging (both interms of on the lawn and seed packet). It's even better once boosted and once levelled up. To add to this point, in most (normal) levels where Sun Producers aren't allowed, Sun Bean is.

I don't use it all the time in those situations but it can be useful, especially when boosted in those levels. There are only about 5 levels with that distinction Funny thing is, there are no levels with that distinction regarding Blowjob Launcher, at least Sun Bean can brag about having 5 levels.

More and more, it is becoming apparent this BWB plant is shit. In fact, now that I think about it, almost all of the plants obtained for free in BWB are shit if you use vanilla plants. Other worlds still have plants that work well as vanilla to an extent, but this world seems to especially focus on giving players some trashy plants. Hard agree except for Guacodile. Little guy is still pretty decent in the right scenario, but it's been known for a while that BWB plants have been noticeably worse than other world's plants.

Lily8763cp wrote:

TheGollddMAN wrote: IDontCareAboutHistory wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote:

Tile Denial wrote: Ballistic Planet wrote:

Tile Denial wrote:

Ballistic Planet wrote: so I came back to PVZ2 with 7.2 (since I keep up with the prerelease leaks and I really like Zoybean Pod) and I've been having a blast! I got both Zoybean and Dazey Chain, and while Dazey Chain is really bad, Zoybean is super fun and actually kind of decent. Hoping to see where we go with other plants! If Pop Cap would hurry up and show us the appearances of Burnade and Mini Pea ah yes because Mini Peashooter is totally gonna break PVZ2. Mini Peashooter shouldn't even exist No, it should. If a shitty plant like Sun Bean (seriously, fuck that plant) can exist in PvZ 2, Mini Peashooter has the right to be. ftfy Sun Bean can help with levels where you want sun at that moment but your sun producers are recharging (both interms of on the lawn and seed packet). It's even better once boosted and once levelled up. To add to this point, in most (normal) levels where Sun Producers aren't allowed, Sun Bean is.

I don't use it all the time in those situations but it can be useful, especially when boosted in those levels. Where and what the hell is Guacodile even useful for? Sure it's better than Blowing Bulb but it's a crappy plant as well. spammable small jalapeno that can take out decent small threats (imp from garg, jester, wizard, excavator, etc) quickly. meatshield block for fisherman.

mastery makes everything broken anyway, so who cares about its use amirite Why use meatshields when you can use bombs to blow everything up? andddd this is why I don't like leveling.

with everything being broken to hell, nothing matters. that's why you think everything can be answered with blowing things up - not the way a tower defense should be (where you mix things up to adapt to the current situation and not answering everything with one single solution)

there might be some fun gained from this but it fits a generic clicker game more than a tower defense game, and I never really enjoy clicker game. Yeah, you forgot we can blow things up vanilla style as well. No need to level up anything. See this is your problem, you have a one track mind (when I never brought up leveling once).

Tell that to the people who wanted to simplify the game even more to the point where there's no challenge. When there was a solid challenge, people bitched and the system was simplified and now it has been watered down even further. blowing things up has a downside of long cooldown - you have to rely on other plants to do the work while things recharge, and back when dynamic was still here there are enough zombies to prevent people from going only kabloomy and winning. that's what meatshields are for - buying time.

but now? dynamic's not there - so there aren't as many threats. moreover leveling does answer the cooldown problem. and the third factor is that - there are more bombing plants. then those bombing plants boost other bombing plants (ahem Bombard-mint). that's why saying things like answering everything with bombing becomes mindless to me - no downside whatsoever, and now strong enough to stand on its own. it may be your style to play, but it'll never be mine. I am not saying this should be your pay style, I am saying that you shouldn't bash the leveling system when people complaining was the reason they removed the actual chelleneging and dynamic difficulty system; those stars.

But still, if you really want to play with strategy, you'll know even without using meatshields and keeping in mind their seed packet cooldown, you can still blow everything up everytime to ease your situation. Not to mention, you still have your offensive plants doing your work in the meantime. well, fair. I concede. it's just that normally saying "blowing things up" to everything just never feels right for me.