Board Thread:Plants vs. Zombies 2/@comment-26239911-20151223153227/@comment-24275721-20151226211903

CompliensCreator00 wrote: Dekagamer7X9 wrote:

TheAnonymousA wrote:

Dekagamer7X9 wrote:

Pmhpc wrote:

The Ancient Pult Ancestor wrote: Coolyoyo33 wrote: So guys, I analyzed shadow shroom and now know his attacking stats.

He does 5 damage every 3 seconds for 30 seconds aka dealing 50 damage in total. BOOM! OP? YOU CALL THAT OP?! THE BEST THING TO KILL IS A DAMN KNIGHT, THAT'S ALL!!!

How about zombies who have full PHYSICAL health, huh? How about those zombies that don't have armor, yet survive a lot, huh? Primal Mine certainly outdoes this. Chili Bean does outdo Shadow-shroom to some extent as well in my eyes. I don't care if it spreads out the damage, the thing is, it's still not a god plant! The only thing OP about him is his PF. But unlike Primal Potato or Chili Bean, it recharges in 10 seconds. Let's not forget that Shadow-shroom also affects machines. Chili Bean doesn't.

As for Primal Potato Mine, I do think it's pretty overpowered, possibly a bit game-breaking. I never said anything about it since I thought everyone would disagree. It would make more sense if Primal Potato Mine took longer to arm. So when we get OP zombies and weak plants, everyone complains about the plants, and when we get an OP Plant, everyone wants to nerf it! Like I said already, OP plants aren't the solution to OP zombies. The game's challenge and (subjectively) it's fun, comes from finding solutions to deal with hard levels without just being able to decimate everything in sight. And, like Shadow-shroom, Grapeshot, Cold Snapdragon, and Sun-shroom, Primal Potato Mine makes many other plants useless. The only downside I see to it is that it has to come into contact with a zombie to explode.

Funny how before we found out what it does, I suggested it could be a Potato Mine for 75 sun that didn't need to arm and exploded in a 3x3 area. And people told me it was a terrible idea. And then we get essentially that, and nobody wants it changed. Though really, the best way to deal with these issues is never create OP Zombies in the first place so OP Plants never have to be introduced to begin with. True. The worst offenders of this title being Octos and Wizards. Even though one might argue that Plant Food, explosives or instas can be used to kill them, these zombies don't really have a plant that we can call as a proper counter. Ghost Peppers do work but one GP alone can't deal with a horde of these things in their respective Endless Zones even with an Imitater. So Ghost Pepper cannot really be called a counter.