Board Thread:Plants vs. Zombies 2/@comment-25546049-20151018175328/@comment-26825778-20151019132502

The Ancient Pult Ancestor wrote: Coolyoyo33 wrote: The Ancient Pult Ancestor wrote: RandomzSunfish23901 wrote:

TheGollddMAN wrote:

Thecoollittlepeashooter wrote: Spells aren't physical objects, and Jesters don't throw stuff like a catapult Spella are basically like rays and rays in real life are blocked off by tree leaves, so that is entirely possible and can be always coded in. Even after 11 updates, we still haven't found a plant that can be called the counter for Wizard's spells. Same goes with the Jester. With all the projectiles he can throw back, there needs to be a plant that nullify them (or atleast some of them). Here's an example of logic in PvZ2 (and there are so many of them): Jester's projectiles cannot hit an unarmed Potato Mine but can hit an armed one.

So either the Jester throws the projectiles real low (which cannot be possible from the perspective) after catching from the same height as thrown by palants that it hits a plant that low on the ground or the height change between an unarmed Potato Mine vs an armed one is 4 feet.

So, going by the above rule, Umbrella Leaf can totally absorb a spell (especially when it happens in real life). No, it hits the side. As do the Jester's projectiles. Let'S face it, if they made a UL clone, you wouldn't want it, but if they made UL on its own, you'd like it. There is no reason to have UL if it will only counter a few zombies. The Wizard Zombie's spells are projectiles, if you look closely at them, and who said the spells were rays? You can see them. And if those zombies COME IN NUMBERS in the endless zones? What if a lot of zombie bulls come in, or a full raiding party comes, & you are too slow to plant Blover or you still haven't got his card? And how about the Octos, which have NO REAL COUNTER??? They may be few, but the moment you reach the climax of an EZ, you will realize UL's true value.

Besides, PopCap might revive the Catapult Zombie, in any form they choose, be it as a Centurion from PvZ:GW or Archer Zombie from PvZ:OL, & clone it because it is successful. Tallnuts are there for the bulls, Multi-directionals for octo, 2 wintermelons in the first and second row are enough for garg imps. Wizard is the only one who doesn't have a counter and it's meant to be that way. ll

As much as I like Umbrella leaf, he has no reason to return. Lost pilots are the weakest reason ever so pls just no. Mate some seed packets are just too valuable to waste on the plants you mentioned. In the end, they have to be replaced. I mean, yes, you countered Octo, but Rotobagas won't help you survive against the rest of the horde as much as winter melons.

As I said earlier, you can't be able to bring all counters at once, & then again, check two more factors: sun & planting space. so you're saying you pretty much want a plant that has all of the uses combined making those plants useless pretty much.

This would give birth to a redone grapeshot scenario, where 1 plant becomes useless compared to the other, but in a worse way this time because it'll make multiple plants cut down by a use.