Board Thread:Plants vs. Zombies 2/@comment-25546049-20161020054342/@comment-24275721-20161024175546

YammaYamer21 wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote: YammaYamer21 wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote: YammaYamer21 wrote: Balam Ajaw wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote: Ballistic Planet wrote:

TheGollddMAN wrote:

Balam Ajaw wrote: Hello guys, what's up? It has been a long time since the last time I came here. Hi Balam, haven't seen you since the Lost City threads. Has it really been that long?

Dang, he hasn't seen the premium plant armada yet! He must be so innocent! If he has installed the game again the he will see the barrage of premiums. He was already overly upset with them and now, well, ......

I already saw all the new plants, but I didn't care because I don't know how useful and necessary are the new premium plants. In the other hand I loved the new plants from Epic Quests, well except the Aloe one, mainly because I don't use defensive plants very often. I usually bring them, especially when there are a million All-Stars(OP sons of b!*&#es), Wizards and Octos are even more overpowered than them and that still stands. The next ones would be Fishermen and Jesters. Wizards can be stalled by Puff-shroom armies. Octos are specifically extremely strong against long-cooldown plants like defensive plants. Fishermen can be taken care of with a mix of GP and Guacodiles. Jesters can be happy in a Laser Bean field. All-Stars just break your front line and don't die. You need PWN to stand a chance, really, and maybe Puff-shrooms alongside if you are in a high level in HttDR. Am I the only one who likes Puffys in EZs?


 * I want a plant that properly kills Wizards and is able to deal with them, not stall them. If stalling is what you want then Witch Hazel will be your favorite plant which itself is bottom tier. Not to mention, PvZ 2 Puff-shroom is awful. If it was the PvZ one, then I could have given some consideration but the sequel version is off the list.


 * I still haven't found a plant good enough to be called reliable against Octos. Winter Melon works but the sun cost becomes a problem early on in TT.


 * I don't want to waste a slot for a plant that basically acts as an instant after rushing which doesn't even do much damage to Fishermen as they don't die in 1 rush. Wasting sun for two plants is not good for sun economy; it might be better to just put a Lily Pad and then use a bomb type plant. Much much more effective.


 * Jesters may be easier to deal with but I never use the Int Laser Bean anyway (the Chinese one is better), so I just go with explosives.

All-Stars might destroy the first plant but I find that they have low health compared to other annoying type zombies as they tend to die very easily. Also since I have Explode-O-Nut, All Stars are a joke to me (coupled with Primal Mines). I think you don't have the plant but EON is better at dealing with most Modern Day zombies than Primal Wall-nut & Puff-shroom will be the last plant I'd ever willingly choose, anywhere. I'd rather sacrifice my Endless Zone streak than use it. As I said, I don't like my plants with handicaps and a plant that disappears after a while without boosts or Plant Food is trash IMO. yes, it costs no sun but that still doesn't negate the fact that it can be only be used as fodder and then it wastes a slot in tougher EZs. Not to mention, EON is cheaper and can explode dealing damage while your PWN and Puffy strategy requires sun and damage which is not reliable either. Your strategy purely involves around defense with a little bit of offense while mine is a combination of defense and offense (and a reliable offense at that). And again, I'd rather use EON for my bait rather than that crap. It would block and kill anything in its radius which your Puffy will never do. Also, since you are saying that the Guacodile method is expensive, my explosives cost less sun and again deal way more damage in an area rather than wasting more sun but for only 1 lane. You have to use plants that makes good use of your sun, not plants that require way too much to work. If you ever get EON, throw that useless shroom in the garbage can where it rightfully belongs. For 50 sun, you'll get the best defense plant in the game, bar none (which also acts as fodder).

I like the Chinese plants because they are my kind of plants. They are not OP, they are just as powerful as they need to be against zombies, much better than the army of vomit we keep getting (Aloe, Witch Hazel just to name a few). If only our version had a mixture of our and their upgrade system, PvZ 2 would be perfect. Increase damage with less sun cost and faster recharge but with even more unlocked abilities (including costume abilities). Make it optional so that the ones who don't like it can stay away while people like me can upgrade them to tehir fullest. Now THAT is an upgrade system I can drool over.