Board Thread:Plants vs. Zombies 2/@comment-5760976-20160716233003/@comment-24275721-20160723080127

Ballistic Planet wrote:

TheGollddMAN wrote:

Ballistic Planet wrote:

TheGollddMAN wrote:

Ballistic Planet wrote:

TheGollddMAN wrote:

Ballistic Planet wrote:

TheGollddMAN wrote:

Ballistic Planet wrote:

TheGollddMAN wrote:

Ballistic Planet wrote: That's the problem. Kiwibeast is good when it's large but by the time it gets large, it loses a part of its health in the process. IMHO, it should have been just a normal large plant from the beginning without this growing gimmick.

I want to use this plant but it relies on Aloe or boosts both of which I'll never use. In testing, he didn't rely too much on Aloe at all. I was able to use him without Aloe pretty successfully.

Plus, he has 40 health, the same as Infi-nut. It takes him 10 bites to transform to the next stage, so when he's large, he still has another 20 bites in him, which is just barely less than Celery Stalker. I generally hate plants with "Elevated" toughness as they are weak af and those 20 bites are not worth my trouble with that 175 sun cost. Maybe I would have bothered with it if it was 100 sun but as it stands, no. Popcap has proven that they can make strong premiums so why not continue the trend? Make Kiwibeast a definite "better in every way- no doubt about that" upgrade of Phatbeet. But no, it's a mediocre upgrade of a scrapheap plant..Honestly, this update in general is a disappointment. Not to mention, even the leveling system (as far as it is) is bad and I want them to change it; I hope I get to level up instantly or I won't have the patience to play levels over and over with all plants. I don't mind the 175 sun cost at all, and the recharge isn't bad, though I would like it if it was 10 seconds as opposed to 15 seconds. In the end though, it's all just preference.

As for the "this update is a disappointment" thing, haven't we been getting those since Neon Mixtape Tour? I'm used to it at this point. I think every update after Lost City has been disappointing, with fun aspects to them (I like quite a few of the plants after LC for instance). But just in general the worlds (I hate NMT and JM, and I'm indifferent towards Modern Day) have been bad, and then all of this filler crap until they finally decide to put us out of our misery. I got Cold Snapdragon and Grapeshot during JM, got those primal plants (except for Primal Shooter as it sucks), got Dusk Lobber, Explode-O-Nut, Shrinking Violet, Wasabi Whip, Electric Currant which are plants I like so I got at least something. This time, nothing. None of the two plants offered pique my interest. The next premium (Apple Mortar) better be a complete upgrade of A.K.E.E with all advantages or imma flip a table. Offtopic from the conversation, but are there any plants that others underrate but you think are good? Give some examples so that I can see what others think as underrated. For example, I think Guacodile is a good plant, but generally others (like yourself) think he's hot garbo.

Stuff rated lowly like Garlic, Guaco, Mag Grass, you know, stuff taht community has had a general negative reaction to being in the game. Like this guy As many know by now, I like plants that are powerful as heck and tuhs usually don't like plants that most people like. So there's not a chance that I will like a plant when even the majority of the community hates it. Makes sense.

As you can tell from me, I personally like plants that have a ton of utility or can be used in interesting or crazy ways, so stuff like having Guacodile rated highly or Magnifying Grass/Sweet Potato not being trash is pretty common place for me. It's all preference, and I really like seeing other people's points of view and comparing them. (I do this with Murabito all the time, since we both have tier lists) Fair enough. Actually rather than utility, I like brute force and thus in most cases, my perfernces are "Make an impact large enough so that everything in sight will be affected". So plants like EON are now absolute fav and I take in all levels while I haven't used Sweet Potato since I don't even remember.

To be honest, I do see the potential for most plants (just because I like strong plants doesn't mean I am blinded by them) but sadly due to PopCap's and a lot of idiots here who scream "OP" at every single god damn thing, most plants end up in the surgery table where they are edited in every way possible. I see where Sweet Potato can be helpful but the way it is, I'd rather use explosives and be done with it. The strategic part of the game was long lost since v1.7 so there's no use maintaining it now.