Board Thread:Plants vs. Zombies 2/@comment-25546049-20151206051217/@comment-26942983-20151209044152

Dekagamer7X9 wrote:

DatDramaPlant wrote:

Dekagamer7X9 wrote:

DatDramaPlant wrote:

Coolyoyo33 wrote:

Dekagamer7X9 wrote: Sigh... Anyone mind if I vent here?

Jurassic Marsh's premiums... They irk me. They aren't bad plants by any means. What makes me get angry at them, is the fact that they are direct upgrades to Cherry Bomb and Snapdragon, yet have the same sun cost as them. At least with Twin Sunflower, Primal plants, Winter Melon, Spikerock, etc, those are higher in sun cost. Grapeshot and Cold Snapdragon literally give you no reason to use Cherry Bomb and Snapdragon. The excuse that "they're premium" doesn't really work, as all plants should be balanced. One shouldn't completely trump another simply because it needs to be bought. All plants are unique, and even in the case of, say, Wall-nut and Primal Wall-nut, at least Wall-nut could still be worth using because of it's lower sun cost. I honestly feel Grapeshot should be 225 sun, and Cold Snapdragon should be 200, or have it's damage changed to 1 NDS.

TL;DR: I don't like that Grapeshot and Cold Snapdragon give you no reason to use Cherry Bomb and Snapdragon. I completely agree with you, this bothers me too. It's just how uncreative popcap can be by just making direct upgrades which are completely unbalanced. CS isn't an upgrade, it's a counterpart. From what we've seen of fire and ice plants, ice plants slow down zombies, and fire plants deal more damage. Therefore, Cold Snapdragon would be a counterpart if it did less damage than Snapdragon while slowing down zombies as well. But as it does the same amount of damage as Snapdragon, it's a direct upgrade. Perhaps it could even be a counterpart if it's sun cost was higher. But no, as it stands now, Cold Snapdragon is a better Snapdragon, not a counterpart to it. One day they'll have a counterpart to Imp Dragons which are immune to ice... The PF is also not as potent. (I think I prefer the regular Snapdragon's PF) So what if the plant food's not as potent? Fire Pea's plant food ability is much more potent than Snow Pea's. Snow Pea and Fire Pea are actually a good example to use here. Now first off, let's imagine that Fire Pea can't defrost plants in Frostbite Caves. Now tell me, would you prefer if Snow Pea did as much damage as Fire Pea and also had the same sun cost? It would pretty much make Fire Pea useless. The same applies here. Even so, if one does not have snow pea, they will still use Fire Pea if they have it!