Board Thread:Wiki management/@comment-2189621-20161122201812/@comment-24024415-20161125161857

Camwood777 wrote:

Legofan9o5 wrote:

Camwood777 wrote:

Legofan9o5 wrote:

Camwood777 wrote: (Evolutions as sub-bullets) That formatting could work out well, as it does nullify my issue of organization. Plus the addition of the whole of the evolution line would be mildly helpful in navigation by cutting out an extra page jump.

An issue I still have however is the relivancy of their addition. Then again, plants like Parsnip have a See Also containing melee plants and Guacodile. They all are somewhat similar in a single aspect to Parsnip, but they ultimately have very little relivency to the plant itself.

This thread needed to be made just to get the concept of mentioning PvZ:AS at all, so I assume that this addition would also need its own thread due to it's further extent of mentioning PvZ:AS with varying degrees of relivancy. So don't be too suprised if someone believes the addition of your proposed evolution line is too obscure to be useful if utilized before everyone has a say in the matter. (PvZ:AS and removing "nobody cares/plays it" excuse) Obviously plants with direct ties to a spinoff of the original source is more closely related than a melee plant to another melee plant, having the inclusion of the entire Evolution line would be helpful. I was just giving an example on how the See Also section would and currently has good examples of relations that are purely superficial, while the linking of these pages would be better.

Though Bulbapedia does use evolution lines on Pokemon pages, the article would be about the evolving Pokemon itself. Our equivalent on the other hand would be along the lines of putting evolution links of a certain Pokemon's evolution line to a personified Pokemon in one of the spinoff games like Mystery Dungeon. Just imagine that the main series is Mystery Dungeon and the spinoff is the main Pokemon games.

Does the character in the article evolve? Most likely not, unless relevant to the story of the respective spinoff. Would it be helpful to have the evolution line on this page? Maybe, if there is use within the game to know what Pokemon evolve in which conditions and to what new form.

To see an example of a lack of evolution lines on spinoff pages: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Drowzee_(Explorers_of_Time,_Darkness,_and_Sky)

It's this consistent logical conflict with relevancy and See Also standards. We tend to add plants with high similarity and/or relevancy, both of which are certainly present in PvZ:AS evolution to varying degrees. I'm just saying, others may use that excuse based on the obscurity stereotype. I certainly would not, but others could.

Heck, with increases exposure, it can help new users bring new content and information to the pages and eliminate the bias of PvZ:AS' obscurity. In sum: it sounds like a good idea, could help grow the smaller pages but could cause conflict based on biases towards the AS series. So... to fix the problem, the only thing preventing it is the problem, and that problem is bias, meaning it's not even there, it's just people being biased and frustrating. The main thing hampering other users from updating the articles of AS plants is a lack of interest and too few users having access to the game. Seeing how little content the pages have and how little exposure they receve doesn't help new users bring in more information on the topic. Its this consistant unfinished state and the mindes it imposes on more experienced users that keeps the AS pages stagnent.

I think we're getting off-topic. How about we end it with:
 * Your sub-bullet idea is good
 * We need more exposure of these pages to help attract new users
 * The See Also section is inconsistant, but AS evolutions still are more relavent than most