Board Thread:Plants vs. Zombies 2/@comment-25546049-20151116183608/@comment-24203813-20151117150450

DatDramaPlant wrote: Dekagamer7X9 wrote:

DatDramaPlant wrote:

Dekagamer7X9 wrote: So... Jurassic Marsh. To me, it looks pretty good. However, it's as unoriginal as Lost City. And, it feels like a kick to the balls after the wonder of Neon Mixtape Tour.

Let us look...

Neon Mixtape Tour:

-Amazing setting. Which, by what I've seen, no one seems to care about.

-6 Free Plants. '''But they're kind of weak. The only ones I find fair enough are Spore-shroom and Intensive Carrot. And both were in Part 2.'''

-Tons of special zombies. Because of the gimmick?

-An original gimmick. Fair enough.

-Original Zombies for the most part. Fair enough.

-Original plants for the most part. I wouldn't say that...

-Our first returning plant since Big Wave Beach. That was heavily nerfed and largely hated anyway.

-A fun and creative boss battle. '''Creative, but fun? NO. The last phase is annoying.'''

Jurassic Marsh:

-Unorignal setting (been done already). No one cares.

-2 Special zombies, which are practically exactly the same. Which ones?

-5 free plants. '''That are completely new. I actually like new plants more.'''

-A gimmick that's kind of original, but the dinosaurs still do something that's been done before. But the style is still different, with the no killing thing.

-Zombies are the standard fair, plus a knight clone and a knight clone-clone that's immune to knockback. What's the immune to knockback one?

-Plants:


 * Primal Peashooter is just a better Peashooter Still usable normally.
 * Primal Wall-nut is just a better Wall-nut. Still usable normally.
 * Perfume-shroom is just a Hypno-shroom for Dinosaurs. Counters an OP gimmick.
 * Primal Sunflower is just a better Sunflower. Still usable normally.
 * Primal Potato Mine is just a better Potato Mine. Still usable normally.

-No returning plants. '''Why do you guys like returning plants so much anyway? Different style, different plants.'''

-A boss battle that, from what Ginta showed us, is just a reskin of the Zombot Dark Dragon battle. '''But with different plants, zombies and gimmick. I don't think THAT'S a reskin.'''

-And to top it all off... 2 Premium plants costing $7! (4 if you count Jack O' Lantern and Shrinking Violet, who were both released around the time the world came out!) '''Maybe there'll be 2 gemiums on Modern Day? You never know. Don't judge the future based on the past, especially in this case.'''

Overall, despite me not playing it yet, from all the information I've analyzed, Jurassic Marsh is a huge letdown. While I'll still play it, and probably still have fun with it, it doesn't change the fact that they've run out of ideas. On the bright side, I can't wait for Modern Day. A world set in the present, with zombies from the first game returning. A great way to end it all off.

'''This is a pretty creative world. The gimmick is actually quite new. And returning stuff? Oh, I am going to hate it as much as BWB, just for the fact that there's no more new zombies. Also... I won't start on the "end it all off" thing.'''

'''I don't know what's the thing about originality. As long as it isn't boring (and I'm sure the dinos will see that you won't be bored, because different style), I'm fine with it. Jurassic Marsh looks amazing, and seems amazing too. Timing is once again key. And I like that. One mistake with the timing and you're doomed. But hey, it's the tenth world.'''

Bully Zombie's just a zombie with machined toughness and is immune to knockback. Like I've already said, while the idea of primal plants could be considered original, that doesn't change the fact that the plants themselves are literally the player's house plants with their properties slightly changed. While they're still usable, it doesn't change the fact that they're unoriginal. And if you're wondering why I want returning plants so much, it's because there are so many that were great that still haven't come back. Hopefully Modern Day has returning plants (it would be a crime for it not to). Must I ask, why are you so offended by my opinion? This is what I believe, and you need to respect other's opinions. Don't get angry at me for simply believing what many would consider reasonable. At least try and be respectful. I was making a statement. What you were doing was parallel to what I was doing. So... yeah. I was being respectful, so can you not accuse me of not being respectful? You are not respecting me by doing that.

About the great returning plants, '''if you like them so much, play the first game. That's perfectly logical.''' You get different plants so that you can test them all out. I think there's no point in repetition, especially if they're nerfing everything. Also, I'm doing this because that's what everyone else is doing. I tried voicing my opinion nicely, and I was immediately shot down. So there.

Also, being UO is the least of my worries. I worry more about UP plants. No, that's not logical at all. I don't want returning plants simply because they were good. I want them so I can try them out and see how they interact with the new plants and zombies. Don't get me wrong, new plants are great, it's just that when an entire world is filled with them it annoys me. Especially when the first 5 worlds had a good balance of returning and new plants.