Board Thread:Chinese content/@comment-27790153-20160928124140/@comment-29611741-20161107222621

TheGollddMAN wrote: YammaYamer21 wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote: YammaYamer21 wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote YammaYamer21 wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote: YammaYamer21 wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote: YammaYamer21 wrote: ShroomstagramUser wrote: Did anyone notice that in one of the photos, Cold Snapdragon costs 250 sun? It's the way it should be. That's a subjective thought. There are very few things that can't be seen as such. However, most share my view. .I know: you'll most likely have a million reasons why upgrades aren't bad, but I probably either will have a counter in reason or a disagreement on its effect. You'll think I never win the argument and I'll think you never win the argument. Welcome to subjectivity.

I've told you at least a few times that I don't hate them because they cost money, but because they are unbalanced. I love balance and I'll find it as a good high-value end. You don't necessarily care as much about balancing and put much less value on it. And no, I don't think others dislike them because they actually dislike paying money; I think others dislike them because they are unbalanced, and I have seen some people here in this wikia talk about disliking non-Prems because they are unbalanced or disliking Premiums more because they were way UP.

And I'll say it here: I don't think all Prems are bad. I like the ideas behind Electric Blueerry, Witch Hazel, and Blooming Heart, as well as Shrinking Violet, Escape Root, and Bombegranate(maybe not as much for this one due to its upgrade nature, but the concept is still a yes). It's not the cost. It's the fairness. I don't want an upgraded Chomper + Sunflower combo; it has no real role that Chomper couldn't fill with Toadstool's 'upgrades,' and that's on top of it being unbalanced. I don't want a longer-ranged melee fire-elemental fighter; I want something with an ability I have not seen or something that would find a new niche of use. I personally like the idea of Cold Snapdragon(a close-ranged ice elemental support), but the fact that it is better than Snapdragon in all aspects except its PF(which is still arguably better) is what I dislike.

I see what you're trying to say about me in the second paragraph, but let me tell you that the idea you're trying to communicate is completely and blankly false. Just because something I hate is all around me and I argue against it does not mean that I am wrong. That is almost complete bullsh*t, and I won't apologize for someone thinking such a thing. Try to tell a Jew in the Holocaust that they are wrong to hate concentration camps because it's all around them and it's expanding and call me if you calm him/her. And before you say I am wrong in replacing your words, just know that by doing that, I am using the literal definition of a counter-argument and not the typical attack on the truth value of an end statement.

The very fact that my arguments automatically are half-baked to you is part of the reason this same argument happens over and over. Another is our different views on what the end goal is and what the problem is. To me, the problem with the international game is the lack of zombie balance and the fluxuation of unoriginal plants that counter these unbalanced zombies by saying goodbye to the usage of any other plant for the new plants' general purpose(why use a Cherry Bomb if you have a Grapeshot/Bombegranate, or a Snapdragon or Bonk Choy when you've got an Icy Snapdragon or a Wasabi Whip?). To you, the problem occurs when plants cannot cope with the incoming zombies. That's why you like the Chinese version better: the levelling system, for the most part, deals with that situation almost entirely.