Board Thread:Plants vs. Zombies 2/@comment-27053902-20180529023301/@comment-35692230-20180721142210

TheGollddMAN wrote: AstroNut1 wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote:

AstroNut1 wrote: And I don't care if you feel like they shouldn't be there in the PvZ series. Now they are and of course they will be if they make a third game. Deal with it.

If you think that the leveling system isn't optional, look at the guys who beat the harder levels using vanilla plants. Just because a game shows you ads doesn't mean you have to give in and who the fuck told you to play Battlez with leveled up plants anyway? Why the fuck are you even playing Battlez when the sole purpose of it is to give players more ways to level up?

Then don't grind the shit outta lootboxes, don't spam OP plants and don't make levels into an effortless joke as you don't need to do it. Whatever the Chinese version is doing, PopCap hasn't done it yet for PvZ 2. When they do, then start crying, until then deal with it.

I bet even when you're crying, you are leveling up your plants anyway.

Also I gotta love how your best counter argument to why I say leveling is horrible is "shut up and deal with it". Because that's the best argument period. Now shut up and deal with it.

But if you wanna really know the actual reason, leveling does make certain plants worth picking in the lineup like Bowling Bulb and Banana Launcher. Leveling also gives players more ways to strategise by even picking dinky Peashooters in levels where they were not an option before. Everything has its ups and downs. On one hand, it makes every plant powerful but on the other hand, it opens new possibilities for plants to work. Hell, leveling makes Chomper, the worst premium plant according to many people here actually useable. There's nothing in this world that is wholly bad or wholly good. That's your argument. If they wanted to make some underpowered plants good, they could've simply buffed them right away instead of introducing a level up system which is basically glorified cheating they are trying to force you to use.

They made Sap-Fling and Sweet Potato cheaper which is nice.

Though they nerfed some plants completely randomly. Phatbeet was perfectly balanced and they made him useless by making his attack speed much slower. They nerfed Citron's plant food effect to no longer insta-kill Gargantuar.

While expansion levels might be technically possible without leveling (I played them but I think those Locked and Loaded levels are pure bullshit), they really weren't intended to. In dialogues of those shitty levels they just praise leveling "Thank taco for powered-up plants!" and Dr. Zomboss' golden quote "Leveled-up plants are egregious and unfair.".

In PvZ 2 Chinese I had to level up plants because it was impossible to progress otherwise and it was super boring. Before I had high level plamts it was impossible no matter what I try to do, after I got strong stuff it was just effortless victories with no strategy needed and super boring.