Board Thread:Roleplaying/@comment-26826553-20160627110338/@comment-26826553-20160820054800

Vergel Nikolai wrote: The Ancient Pult Ancestor wrote: Vergel Nikolai wrote: The Ancient Pult Ancestor wrote:

2.) When I meant Macedon, I referred to the Greek region. I always refer to the place within Greece when I say Macedon, & nothing outside, nothing else. The zone is technically a part of Greece. As said: Macedonia is part of  Northern Greece, together with  Thrace and sometimes  Thessaly and  Epirus. "

It's not a zone of its own, & shouldn't be treated as such. It does not lie in between Greece & FYROM. It's a part of Greece, & most of the ancient kingdom lies within the modern one. Ripping its roots away from Greece & considering it as a separate kingdom altogether...let's just say that the Greeks would do stuff the Leonidas way when that happens...Greece is mad about FYROM being such a ripoff. I mean, no one likes it when people steal from them.

Here's how you can probably relate to that (no offense guys, but I'm just speaking the truth here): China is taking our the Kalayaan island group & all islands west of us as part of their territory. Now, mate, us Filipinos view the islands west of the main archipelago as our own. Do we view them as separate islands altogether? Do we just let the Chinese claim the land, mate? Oh hell no, we don't, mate, we don't. Everyone from the fishermen to the folk further inland all know the truth: the islands are ours. Now, just replace China with FYROM, the islands with the Macedonian region, & the Philippines with Greece. Now, I hope you get how the Greeks feel about getting their stuff touched or thought of in that manner. No matter how small the deal seems to be, the affected will fight so fiercely just to shatter the false rumors & misconceptions as well as fight off those who try to shake the claim off of their stuff. Yeah, you can say I feel for the Greeks, especially since even my idol Alexander & his legacy, being symbols of Macedon, are part of the Macedon dispute, so it's a big deal for me, alright. That's my idol being juggled around in the argument. There, I hope relating that case to our own similar problem will do that. And if that can't get you to grasp what exactly am I fighting for, I don't know what will. Actually, there is a region called Macedonia in the middle of Greece, FYROM, Bulgaria, Albania, Serbia, and Kosovo. According to Wikipedia, the region is the once Kingdom of Macedonia before each state turned independent. Just like how you can say Prussia was a group of Germanic country (like Germany, Poland, Denmark, Switzerland, etc.), and the fact that Austria and Hungary was one kingdom before. And calling them "ripoffs" is kinda racist. It does not really have to go here. It's just like seeing there are Buddhist temples in a Christian region of Visayas, without even knowing that the region itself was once a part of the Shrivijayan Empire, which was a Buddhist empire, right before the Spaniards came.

And about the Kalayaan Islands, I'm full neutral. I mean there is no need to rant to them. Y should all remember that most of out goods are "Made in China". Most of the worlds most useful influences are from China. Remember paper, compass, gunpowder, The Art of War, it's from them. If there would be war between China and us (not only us, Japan, Vietnam, etc), all supplies will be cut off. And nobody wants that. Even America! When that happen, my father will lose a job. He is an online teacher teaching Chinese how to speak English. Well at the same time, I also disagree with China. They just took our islands like that, and not allowing us to fish there. They made hangars. Just hangars! Not allowing us to fish! Why not share you know? Like make business with this issue. I hope our president will resolve this issue peacefully for both our nations.

I hope not of my Chinese of fellow Pinoy wiki-mates are offended. Just a little peace talk. That's all. Sana mag saalang-alang tayo lahat. (I hope we accept this and move on.)

Kids, how do you react to Draken finally meeting his mother after 6 years? 1.) Whenever I say Macedon, I always refer to the Greek Macedon. I don’t say Macedon as in the separate region or FYROM. You know why I say Macedon & not Macedonia, mate? Macedon is what is usually meant to refer to the Greek region. While we may both be right in a sense, next time, know that whenever I talk of Macedon, it’s either the ancient land or the modern one, but never a place that is not within Greece. Never the region unless stated (if I don't say "Macedonian Region", then I don't refer to the region), never FYROM, by default, I mean THIS or THIS. Only those two, & nothing else unless stated otherwise. I guess it's my fault of not specifying what I meant when I say Macedon. Well now I did, I made iit clear what I mean to say whenever I say "Macedon".

2.) Mate, that is something else. It’s called influence, & therefore invalid. And that is a structure in your example, not a country. You talk about an influence, which is something encouraged or enforced by a group of people on another group of people. Examples are how Alex taught all the lands he conquered, & how they embraced his influence & began making & doing things like Greeks with or without making changes to their own ways. Another example is the way how Spaniards, Americans, & Japanese conquerors either encouraged, inspired, or enforced us to act like them. There, in your example, due to being under an empire, Buddhist ways & structures would come to be in some way. They have their rights to believe in any religion they want to & rights to creating their own structures. But rights end when it touches the rights of another. Stealing a neighbor’s identity is one case of freedom breaching.

I am talking about theft. To make it clear, the thing ain’t racist. The point is to say that FYROM stole stuff from Greece, & that is the truth. If you think people calling FYROM a ripoff is rude, then know that it is nothing compared to stealing a name, a history, & a legacy, which the Greeks never shared with them. How would you feel if people from another country name their country after ours, & pretend to be the real Philippines, then say “Jose Rizal & Bonifacio were one of us. Our national symbol, our flag, is the blue-over-red banner with the white triangle with three stars & a sun.” Mate, these guys claim the name of one of Greece’s lands, as well as Alexander & his legacy. They even sort-of copied the Vergina Sun, & now they have a flag that resembles Japan’s flag (unintentionally) as well as Alexander’s flag. The UN has long been dealing with this ongoing problem.

Mexico (Pampanga) was inspired by THE Mexico. Alexandria (America) was inspired by the city in Egypt which was the first city Alex made. The people in those places don’t claim to be the real deals. They were inspired by the real deals. But FYROM? They claimed to be the real Macedon, because they use the stuff that symbolized Macedon, from Alex to the Vergina Sun, which are considered parts of Greek culture, so using such symbols are technically stealing. Did they clear up the misconceptions & acknowledge the Macedon in Greece as the original Macedon? Nope. As said, would you like another country to make Jose Rizal a figure of their own despite being unrelated to him in any way? Same case here, mate, just with Alex The Great in the place of Rizal. Slavs never appeared around the same time as Alexander; they never could have crossed him, much less be related to him. It is just wrong to call them Macedonians for the sake of the true Macedonians (the Greek ones...they really take offense at that). FYROM split off of Yugoslavia in the 90s, &, out of all the names they could choose, they chose a Greek place that gave birth to a legend. Let’s say the country copying the Philippines uses the excuse “We’re inspired.” as a last resort. Nope. There could only be one Philippine country. There could only be one Macedon of Alex The Great. The Greeks only accept “Macedonia” as the region you say (only geographically speaking), their ancient kingdom, & their modern land, but not as FYROM or anything else. Same goes for me. Would you like to share your legendary past with a country who never had anything to do with it? No! Ancient Greek history is Ancient Greek history, Greek people are Greek people, & nothing else. We can share history with Spain & China in a way due to trade & colonization. We can't share our past with the Egyptians. We can't share our past with Inuits in any way. We cannot share our Lapu-Lapu with Russians, no.

I am not angry at Chinese people, especially since some of my friends are Chinese. I’m just mad at the government for ignoring The Hague’s judgement. We won, mate, but still they claim the place.

I hate stealers. The two cases have the same thing. Sure, different things are at dispute. There is culture in one, territory in the other. But they are both wars between people claiming what isn’t theirs & people who feel robbed & will stretch through hell just to take back what is rightfully theirs.

I know, not directed at me, but I don’t accept stuff & move on, mate. I am not one who leaves & lets be. I go with the exact opposite. I soldier on until I make my point clear. And my points are that when I say Macedon, I mean THIS or THIS, & that our islands are our islands. I admit, I’m not neutral in that fight. By now, you probably know my nature: I am not really a peaceful guy. I prefer to go aggressive & attack the other end full force just to impale the point into the ground. Even as I hope for this not to blow up into a war (If they’ll go on, that just means blackmail, & if they do wage war, then…yeah, you can guess what I'm implying...you can say I would have anything done just to at least try to achieve justice…insane of me, you say? Insane I am, mate, but I’m just a bullheaded Zealot who takes things past limits...yeah, tell the Art Of War to the nukes & other high-end America-exclusive tech...Bruce Lee said that, no matter how good you are in hand-to-hand, one bang, & it matters not...one bomb, & it matters not...not like anyone would want to come to that, but if things go extreme, then bring on the extreme), I, at most, would certainly go the most direct way possible. Sure, not the best way to deal with it, but that’s my nature, & I prefer to stay as I am. This, coupled with my lazy nature, is why I know I’m not good as a staff member or as a real politician. Heck, I don’t want to be one.



MB3: *too in to his music to even be aware of what’s going on* NANDITO NANAMAN KAMI! NAGKAKANTAHAN SA ISANG TABI *raps on*

//Not that he’s Filipino. It’s just that, as director, I inject tagalog lines sometimes.

Gildia: Just don’t mind him. He’s so happy, it’s probably not good to remove his headphones & disturb his happy moment…What’s the question again oh…Aww, he’s so happy! Good to see him finally reunite with his mom. Congratulations, Draken!

<p class="MsoNormal">Vincent: Hopefully, she’s not going away again…right?

<p class="MsoNormal">Anneberg:  Yay! Good to see a friend so happy! :D

<p class="MsoNormal">Vincent: Is that a tear of joy?

<p class="MsoNormal">Anneberg: *starts sweating & crying like crazy* Why is it so hot- *faints, & Gildia dunks her in a nearby ice box*

<p class="MsoNormal">Gildia: Her immune system is very low. Last time, in a field trip in the woods, she got lost & ended up in a torchwood settlement. They, being so huge, failed to notice her…or us when we came for her. When we finally found her, she was almost nothing but a puddle. She had to take cryotherapy for weeks, & was stuck with a horrible hot (if we suffer colds, cold plants suffer hots…but hots for them is the same as the normal cold, except…well, it’s obvious why they call it “hot”) & a severe fever for a month. I guess she probably got to close to Draken or she hyperventilated when she got too happy.

<p class="MsoNormal">Violet: Good *sniff* to see *sniff* you *sniff* reunite…*sob*with your par-parents *sniff* Drak *sniff* Drak *sniff* Dr-Draken…*sob*

<p class="MsoNormal">//Well, we all know this, right? Parents terminated when she was just a baby. Never got to see her parents. And if you’ll ask “Why not have someone go back in time & save her parents?” Well, ask why Primula won’t save hers from extinction, or why Blaze won’t save his parents (already asked)…Gonna affect the timeline, probably resulting in unfavorable results. Best that the dead stay dead.

<p class="MsoNormal">Surt: *comes by* Oooh, Batman remembers the death of mom & dad, boo-hoo…HAHAHAHA!!!

<p class="MsoNormal">//Well, we all know why Surt called her “Batman”. Reference to the exaggerated feeling of Wayne not being able to bring back his parents & how easy it is to strike him emotionally due to that.

<p class="MsoNormal">Vincent: You bull- *squeaks as the igneous cabbage looms over him*

<p class="MsoNormal">Surt: *pushes Vince & laughs* HAH! The problem with you babies is that you’re all too attached to your parents!

<p class="MsoNormal">Vincent: IT’S JUST BECAUSE YOU DON’T CARE FOR YOURS!

<p class="MsoNormal">Surt: Of course I don’t. Dad was an idiot. He can’t murder right. He didn’t cover his tracks, ended up on TV, ended up in jail. Laughed at him for days. At least mom can marry a better guy now, one who can commit crimes without getting caught. But I don’t give a penny for my mom.

<p class="MsoNormal">Vincent: You-you monster! You only care for yourself, that’s why!

<p class="MsoNormal">Surt: Yeah, I know, stupid. No need to inform me about myself. But you know what else makes me laugh? Beating the snot out of you puny idiots! *picks Vince up* Time for the first black eye of the day-

<p class="MsoNormal">(White mist violently constricts & chokes Surt, forcing him to release the shroom. Carrie fades into the scene.)

<p class="MsoNormal">Carrie: Guess who’s getting the black eye, punk! *screams & bares fangs*

<p class="MsoNormal">(Surt, in terror, breaks from the mist & runs off.)

<p class="MsoNormal">Carrie: *gives a smug smile, & fades away*

<p class="MsoNormal">Roxy: *overhears the conversation* At least his mom came back because she loves him…Mom & dad think they can occupy me with these Barbies…But no! *sobs* I WANT THEM!

<p class="MsoNormal">Sthalia: Don’t worry, Roxy.

<p class="MsoNormal">Drew Shadie: You got us.

<p class="MsoNormal">(Rich Girls Hug)

<p class="MsoNormal">//Roxy’s parents don’t work overseas. Still, they only come once a week or so just to get something or rest. They only give Roxy a quick kiss & leave, their stays not lasting for a day, while she spends the rest of the week with the formal corny butter…I mean butler…Well, actually, they’re doing it all for Roxy, but the minimal time they get to be with her twisted her perception, thinking they don’t care. You know the feeling kids feel when their parents rarely get to be with them…She’s only 6 years old. She’ll understand in the future…

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<p class="MsoNormal">Wizlock, earlier, the shroom kid (Vincent) was almost beaten up by the flaming cabbage. I know you hate shrooms, but still, if you were there, would you help the kid or would you sit back & enjoy watching the bully beating him up?

<p class="MsoNormal">For that matter, does your hatred include kid shrooms like Vince & Sporo? OK, I'm convinced. No need to rage out. So it goes like this...

Macedon = Greek province

Macedonia = geographic zone in Southern Mediterranean Europe

I never knew FYROM stole your idol. But no need to get mad. Have UN take care of of. Focus in your RPs and exams next week (me, mine is done). It's just like getting mad of how the Jews took Israel which is originally inhabited by the Palestinians. That's theft too, right? And UN is taking care of it so both people stop their countless conflicts. Only God knows when it will end.

For a mad that goes easily mad, you're some strong warrior. Me? I'm only calm and friendly here because I don't want you to know my true nature. Outside, I have this mental illness. I am smart in whole, but also kind of a weirdo. I also get easily mad like you. Because I'm talking to you, I only show you my calm and weird side.

Wizlock: I may have a deep hatred to mushrooms, but I longerly left my warlock ways (Even if I still use chaos magic until now). As for the shroom, he is bullied by a hell spawn! He shall pay! *Warlock Mode Activate!!!* *black chains from the ground ensnares Surt* '''You know you must not bully someone! Harassing someone is like harassing yourself in sharp needles and spikes! A sin is done and you shall--.''' *gets slapped by Joustalot* Oh, sorry. As I was saying, even shrooms are living creatures too. As for the kid getting bullied, I'll protect him. I'll just let the hell spawn get ensnared there with my Black Chains. *short warlock voice* And let him feel what the shoom felt as he punches him! Only when I add region do I mean region...And yeah, the Alex issue is more than enough to make me mad. It made me enter those online arguments in the first place, which is one of the reasons I'm not afraid to show my nature online. Actually, this thing I'm doing is only a fraction of what I usually do elsewhere, given that many restrictions exist in this wiki.

And wrong example again. The Jews were relocated there. Plus, remember that Abraham moved for some time & stopped within the approximately same area. Then after some time, Jacob moved to Egypt for Joseph. But then, Moses helped get the people back to that place (job was finished by Joshua, though...). The Israelites, by the Bible, were one of the true owners in the land, & the relocation was only right. They never stole it, it was given to them by Him, they were destined to take it, it is theirs to begin with. Even if they took the land, conquering is still different from stealing symbols & cultures. The Israelites came into the region calling themselves Jews. They never claimed to be the true Palestinians...& why would they? Ever since Biblical times, the Philistines (Palestines) were one of their first & most brutal enemies along the Amalekites, Assyrians, & Babylonians, & are one of the few remaining. Taking back the land, in my eyes, is a form of exacting a 2000-3000 year-old vengeance (& as I said, I ain't peaceful, I'm more on the vengeful side, not forgetting or letting go of faults), & His people are just fulfilling their destiny.

Then again, unlike the FYROM-Macedon issue, I'm not really much on the Palestine-Israelite war.

Well, I hope with all those clearances (Preparing for a debate on Palestine & Israel just in case though...will there be one?), the battle is-

Terminator: *pops up & headbutts the screen, his flames (hair) roasting the screen*

(By 25-27, I'mma gonna whack those exams on the head...Ok, only 8 of them exams (wow, I expected senior high to be harder...but no, we go home at 3, but while we were juniors, we went home by 5...not that I'm complaining)...but still...& that's not even putting into consideration that we have to do projects while reviewing, & pass them on the same day as exams...Welp, I'mma gonna shred them down *pulls out pen*...hopefully)

Surt: Well screw you, rotten old man! What are you, a cosplayer? *melts the chains & prepares to lob* Stupid props...If my dad were free, I hope he would murder you. You look uglier than that ghost-costumed freak-

Carrie: *poofs up again & screeches, causing Surt to run off again* Seriously, that kid would make a good criminal in the future. I'd love to kill him now, but then again, just a kid who ain't even a fraction of a threat to the world...Well, then again, his future is blurry...At most, he'll be nothing more than an ordinary criminal like his dad Enceladus (also an Ig-Cab)...I remember, I did tell Pops to refrain from just simply terminating everyone head-on...still, when that fat flamin' cabbage tried to burn Violet's petals & give her two black eyes just because "It is fun to beat up depressed crybabies.", Pops used his shotgun. Fortunately, he calculated his shots so they wouldn't really strike the kid. When his dad showed up, Pops beat him up & snapped his right arm (because, well, Enceladus, like The Terminator, is in a more humanoid form...however, since he is not a terminator or a very talented guy, Enceladus is only good with one hand; he's left-handed) in ten seconds, & engaged in a motorbike chase. Enceladus managed to escape. However, due to his injuries, he didn't manage to hide very well (but he still managed to murder ten people while he escaped).

CitroCop: *rolls in* We followed a trail of blood to a warehouse, where he engaged in a gunfight. Three officers were killed with four more wounded.

Carrie: But he was taken alive. Shot in the crotch, right?

CitroCop: Yes. He survived & is now-

(A TV in the room shows the news - a dead Sunflower outlined with chalk, smashed in, guts pulled out. The police on the news determined the DNA left by the killer.)

(And that implies that you-know-who will be on the loose in a future RP.)