Plants vs. Zombies Wiki:Chat/Logs/23 July 2016

 [03:15]  Opening PvZ2 only for the CotD. [03:15]  teleport seems like a great trick [03:15]  yup [03:15]  I figured [03:15]  it costs 1k to craft one tho :( [03:16]  sigh [03:16]  no kiwibeast in my ezs [03:16]  Teleport is decent [03:16]  but I got Aloe twice [03:16]  fuck it [03:16]  I'll go to the FF EZ (where Aloe is) and play it until I get kiwibeast [03:17]  I feel like torturing myself right now [03:17]  kite flyer's description changed [03:17]  how to trigger someone who plays PVZ2: [03:18]  Aloe is a great plant [03:18] <Ballistic Planet> PVZ2 is a very original game [03:18] <Ballistic Planet> oops [03:18] <Murabito> i am triggered [03:18] <Ballistic Planet> wrong one [03:18] <Fairy27> -_- [03:18] <Ballistic Planet> oh wlel [03:18] <Ballistic Planet> well* [03:18] <Fairy27> Hi~ [03:19] <Iamarepeater> hive [03:19] <Ballistic Planet> o/ [03:19] <Snarkel> Aloeha! [03:20] <Snarkel> dead chat? [03:20] <Ballistic Planet> I once played Temple of Bloom, and Power Lily only showed up on levels 18 and 61 [03:20] <Ballistic Planet> I skipped on level 18 [03:20] <Ballistic Planet> I had to play 43 levels without Power Lily by choice [03:20] <Ballistic Planet> so this could take a while to get Kiwibeast [03:21] <Insert Your Name Here> Here's my thought on teleport [03:21] <Insert Your Name Here> It's hard to judge it because it has to compete with beam me up and imp copter [03:21] <Dont let go> Whats with all the drive by shootings [03:21] <Dont let go> I just recently noted one in Germany [03:21] <Insert Your Name Here> And space cadet and imp copter are not bad units [03:21] <Fairy27> I like Teleport, just don't have it. [03:22] <Snarkel> SR still not out for NA... [03:22] <Ballistic Planet> oh my fucking god [03:22] <Insert Your Name Here> And none of them are super rare [03:22] <Ballistic Planet> Endurian Chomper or Shadow-shroom in the Endless Zone [03:22] <Ballistic Planet> end me npow [03:22] <Ballistic Planet> now [03:22] <Insert Your Name Here> It's like having to compare terrify to sumo [03:22] <Snarkel> Chomper can actually be really helpful imo [03:23] <Ballistic Planet> I picked Endurian for the "Aloe "Synergy"" [03:23] <Ballistic Planet> I quadruple qouted synergy [03:23] <Iamarepeater> Why not a 3 headed chomper then? [03:23] <Ballistic Planet> since it sucks so bad [03:23] <Ballistic Planet> We're not talking PVZh @ Ima [03:23] <Iamarepeater> Oh [03:23] <Ballistic Planet> I'm playing PVZ2, trying to get kiwibeast in an endless zone so I canget images for the wiki [03:23] <Iamarepeater> But how? [03:23] <Snarkel> Place Chompers in front of stronger zombies that you cant afford to deal with and shovel it up immediately [03:24] <Iamarepeater> Then why not Toadstool? [03:24] <Fairy27> When does Beghouled Beyond start again? [03:24] <Ballistic Planet> endless zone [03:24] <Ballistic Planet> no Toadstool [03:24] <Ballistic Planet> the options were Chimper Shadow-shroom and endurian [03:24] <Ballistic Planet> or extra Sun [03:24] <Iamarepeater> Oh [03:24] <Ballistic Planet> but I'm trying to cycle out plants [03:24] <Ballistic Planet> Chimoer* [03:24] <Ballistic Planet> Chomper* [03:25] <Ballistic Planet> I already had Aloe, so I decided to pick Endurian for the "synergy' [03:25] <Ballistic Planet> "* [03:25] <Snarkel> Aloe would be good if it just healed faster tbh [03:25] <Ballistic Planet> yeah [03:25] <Ballistic Planet> it would [03:25] <Ballistic Planet> it's heal needs a shorter recharge [03:26] <Ballistic Planet> his heal is a 10 second cd [03:26] <Ballistic Planet> PopCap pls [03:26] <Snarkel> Maybe i'll change that in my OBB if someone is able to find out how [03:26] <Ballistic Planet> no [03:26] <Ballistic Planet> I know how [03:26] <Ballistic Planet> the value is editable [03:26] <Fairy27> Darn it, there's much chaos. [03:26] <Snarkel> I figured XD [03:26] <Iamarepeater> I bet 99999 dollars that PVZ2C will never add Aloe to their list of plants [03:26] <Ballistic Planet> http://prntscr.com/bwe7iu [03:27] <Snarkel> The only problem would be finding the right heal rate, so I don't turn it OP [03:27] <Ballistic Planet> 5 seconds [03:27] <Ballistic Planet> is a good place to start [03:27] <Ballistic Planet> change "20 41" to "A0 40" [03:27] <Iamarepeater> @Snarkel: How long does Heavenly Peach need to recharge between healing? [03:28] <Snarkel> Oh, is it based on recharge? [03:28] <Ballistic Planet> yeah [03:28] <Snarkel> heavenly peach, I don't know exactly but its faster than Aloe that's for sure [03:28] <Ballistic Planet> the recharge time is coded in second [03:28] <Ballistic Planet> and I have all of the second values written down [03:28] <Ballistic Planet> from 1-60 [03:28] <Ballistic Planet> and Gold Bloom's [03:29] <Ballistic Planet> can popcap [03:29] <Snarkel> Does KiwiBeast have any editable values? [03:29] <Ballistic Planet> stop giving me shitty plants [03:29] <Ballistic Planet> in EZ's [03:29] <Ballistic Planet> please [03:29] <Ballistic Planet> brb [03:30] <Fairy27> Some (bloomerang) s on the lawn, there. [03:30] <Fairy27> (pea-nut) is on sale. Now 0.99 currency. [03:30] <Snarkel> oh wow [03:31] <Snarkel> that's quite a steal [03:31] <Fairy27> So (wasabi whip) and (explode-o-nut2) are not limited premiums. [03:31] <Snarkel> to bad I already bought it when it first came out [03:31] <Ballistic Planet> back [03:31] <Snarkel> They aren't? [03:31] <Fairy27> They're still there! [03:31] <Ballistic Planet> Kiwibeast does have some editab;e values besides the standard HP, Sun and recharge [03:32] <Ballistic Planet> you can edit his damage [03:32] <Ballistic Planet> and maybe his range too [03:32] <Fairy27> Could be a bug or something, but they are still there. [03:32] <Ballistic Planet> so [03:32] <Snarkel> well, I guess Wasabi Whip is understandable but Explode-o-nut is odd [03:32] <Snarkel> So nothing too crazy on Kiwibeast [03:32] <Ballistic Planet> my choices for the TFT EZ are (Escape Root) (Shadow-shroom) (Stunion) and (Puff-shroom2) [03:32] <Ballistic Planet> what the fuck popcap [03:32] <Snarkel> two g's [03:33] <Iamarepeater> @BP: At least pick escape root [03:33] <Ballistic Planet> i did [03:33] <Snarkel> If it were me, I would probably be stuck between Puff-Shroom and Stunion [03:34] <Ballistic Planet> Stunion? [03:34] <Ballistic Planet> Vs. Mechs? [03:34] <Ballistic Planet> bro [03:35] <Iamarepeater> puff-shroom is better in this case [03:35] <Snarkel> I thought you were on Temple of Doom? [03:35] <Ballistic Planet> nah [03:35] <Ballistic Planet> TFT [03:35] <Ballistic Planet> [03:35] <Iamarepeater> Terror from tommotow [03:35] <Ballistic Planet> if it was TOB, then I wouldn't call Stunion shit [03:35] <Iamarepeater> *tommorow [03:35] <Ballistic Planet> i'd pick Stunion all day every day [03:35] <Ballistic Planet> and + Shadow-shroom and Escape aren't bad either [03:35] <Snarkel> Does Stunion not affect Robots? [03:36] <Ballistic Planet> they're just not great [03:36] <Ballistic Planet> yup [03:36] <Snarkel> oh [03:36] <Snarkel> I never knew that [03:36] <Ballistic Planet> Stunion not Chili Bean nor Garlic effect them [03:36] <Ballistic Planet> nor* [03:36] <Snarkel> yet shadow-shroom does? [03:36] <Snarkel> that's weird [03:36] <Ballistic Planet> Shadow-shroom does [03:36] <Ballistic Planet> so SS isn't bad [03:36] <Ballistic Planet> but I'd rather have ER since he's basically a stronger Potato Mine [03:37] <Snarkel> I just find it odd that none of those affect them but Shadow-Shroom does [03:37] <Snarkel> what about (primal potato mine) ? [03:37] <Iamarepeater> Maybe because they are attacking the driver [03:37] <Ballistic Planet> yeha [03:37] <Ballistic Planet> ofcourse PPM does [03:37] <Iamarepeater> But then shouldn't the driver be killed already? [03:38] <Snarkel> it cant be affecting the driver because the splat is on the windshield of the mech [03:38] <Ballistic Planet> oh wow [03:38] <Ballistic Planet> Shadow-shroom for the 3rd time in a row [03:38] <Ballistic Planet> my gosh [03:38] <Ballistic Planet> he's up against Grapeshot, laser Bean, and PPS [03:39] <Ballistic Planet> I'm gonna be reisky here [03:39] <Snarkel> Primal Peashooter? [03:39] <Snarkel> PPS? [03:39] <Ballistic Planet> and go with PPS over Grapeshot [03:39] <Ballistic Planet> yes [03:39] <Snarkel> yes, definitely PPS [03:39] <Ballistic Planet> I would take Grapeshot if I didn't have ER [03:40] <Snarkel> I still would have taken Primal Peashooter [03:40] <Snarkel> one of the best plants in the game imo [03:40] <Snarkel> Aloeha! [03:40] <Iamarepeater> hive [03:40] <Ballistic Planet> o/ [03:40] <Ballistic Planet> PPS is good for sure [03:40] <Iamarepeater> @snarkel: You brought blover? [03:40] <Ballistic Planet> but imo Grapeshot is in the top 10 [03:41] <Ballistic Planet> and PPS is just shy of the top 20 [03:41] <Snarkel> Who doesn't bring Blover? [03:41] <Snarkel> If I had any complaint for PPS it would be his sun cost [03:41] <Snarkel> but when you get atleast 3-4 columns of them, your unstoppable [03:42] <Ballistic Planet> oh boy [03:42] <Ballistic Planet> an interesting pick [03:42] <Ballistic Planet> (Red Stinger) (Squash2) (Guacodile) (Celery Stalker) [03:42] <Iamarepeater> @snarkel: Jesters and jurrassic bullies? [03:42] <Snarkel> How are you getting through these levels so fast? [03:42] <Fairy27> Hi PP~ [03:42] <Ballistic Planet> I'm thinking Guacodile [03:42] <Ballistic Planet> I play on fast forward mode [03:43] <Ballistic Planet> and I don't stall zombies [03:43] <Snarkel> Jurassic Bullies aren't a problem if you manage the Dinos' and jesters, just replace the PPS with Fume-Shrooms [03:43] <Ballistic Planet> plus, they're early levels [03:43] <Ballistic Planet> they're easy as fuck [03:43] <Ballistic Planet> hmm [03:43] <Ballistic Planet> I'm torn between Guac and CS [03:43] <Ballistic Planet> we'll have fun this time [03:44] <Ballistic Planet> I picked Stalker [03:44] <Ballistic Planet> ooh Mecha Footballs [03:44] <Ballistic Planet> how fun [03:44] <Snarkel> I was going to recommend squash [03:44] <Ballistic Planet> eh [03:44] <Ballistic Planet> I already have ER [03:44] <Ballistic Planet> he's enough for now [03:45] <Snarkel> idk, I don't use ER much to judge him myself [03:45] <Snarkel> he seems OK [03:45] <Ballistic Planet> Er's is basically a better Potato Mine [03:45] <Ballistic Planet> with a unique effect to swap plants [03:45] <Ballistic Planet> he's not bad, he's actually in my top 40 plants (for now, I'm thinking on lowering him soon) [03:46] <Snarkel> But the thing is, there is never really a reason to swap plants [03:46] <Ballistic Planet> dude [03:46] <Iamarepeater> bbl Lunch [03:46] <Snarkel> unless its SOS [03:46] <Ballistic Planet> PPS + Celery Stalker synergy [03:46] <Ballistic Planet> wombo combo [03:46] <Ballistic Planet> Er can't swap with endagereds last I checked [03:46] <Iamarepeater> I will stay here for logging purposes [03:46] <Ballistic Planet> unless they patched it [03:46] <Ballistic Planet> \o [06:30] <Ballistic Planet> in the end [06:30] <Murabito> non prem plants in S: gold bloom, primal flower, primal wallnut, winter melon [06:30] <Murabito> that's [06:31] <Murabito> not bad actually [06:31] <Murabito> you're only dumping about $30 on pvz2 to win [06:31] <Murabito> compared to games like hearthstone and clash royale [06:31] <Ballistic Planet> In my Top 10, 4 out of 10 plants are free [06:31] <Ballistic Planet> pls [06:31] <Murabito> the monetization is insane [06:32] <Ballistic Planet> Hearthstone isn't actually that bad [06:32] <Ballistic Planet> and I know because I play it [06:32] <Ballistic Planet> and I have a good collection [06:32] <Ballistic Planet> it's just grindy as fuck [06:32] <Ballistic Planet> but you can't grind to get premium content [06:32] <Ballistic Planet> here's what I think they should've dne [06:32] <Murabito> someone says it takes $12k or a decade to max out everything in clash royale [06:32] <Ballistic Planet> they should've made these premiums plants cost either gems or money [06:33] <Murabito> gemiums are extinct [06:33] <Murabito> rip [06:33] <Ballistic Planet> so you have the option to either grind or pay [06:33] <Murabito> nope [06:33] <Murabito> that wouldn't rake in enough cash [06:33] <Murabito> because everyone would choose to grind because gems are fairly easy to get [06:33] <Marcia Aeris> I'm trying to do something digital for once. [06:33] <Ballistic Planet> Well [06:33] <Ballistic Planet> they could make them cost a lot of gems [06:34] <Iamarepeater> Or make gem hard to get [06:34] <Ballistic Planet> and besides [06:34] <Iamarepeater> Like 1 in every 100000 [06:34] <Ballistic Planet> there's 24 premiums in the game now [06:34] <Murabito> last time I counted 25 [06:34] <Ballistic Planet> it'll take forever to get them all, if they cost like 300-maybe even 1k a piece [06:34] <Ballistic Planet> 25? [06:34] <Ballistic Planet> point still stands [06:34] <Murabito> you only need like [06:34] <Murabito> say [06:35] <Murabito> 5 prems [06:35] <Murabito> + seed slot and pf slot bonus [06:35] <Ballistic Planet> but there's always gonna be the idiots/collectionists [06:35] <Murabito> that's me lol [06:35] <Ballistic Planet> some people wouldn't know that CSD or SV are super op [06:35] <Murabito> mentions sv but not eon [06:35] <Murabito> triggered [06:36] <Ballistic Planet> they'd see Chomper and be like "Oh hey, I remember that guy", assuming they've played the first game [06:36] <Ballistic Planet> and go for him [06:36] <Ballistic Planet> and think that CSD is uninspired and because of that he's shit [06:37] <Murabito> if they have like half a brain [06:37] <Murabito> they would know that chomper is the worst plant in pvz1 [06:37] <Ballistic Planet> Mura [06:37] <Ballistic Planet> you're underestimating how stupid people really are [06:37] <Murabito> ah [06:37] <Ballistic Planet> there are people out there who will do that [06:38] <Ballistic Planet> and maybe even buy Chomper instead of spending gems [06:38] <Iamarepeater> IDK who would buy snow pea [06:38] <Murabito> how would you buff chomper [06:38] <Ballistic Planet> Make it takes less time to Chew [06:38] <Ballistic Planet> like maybe 10 seconds [06:38] <Iamarepeater> Make him have no chewing time [06:38] <Ballistic Planet> maybe 5 [06:38] <Iamarepeater> Or 2 [06:38] <Ballistic Planet> But fucking 30 [06:38] <Ballistic Planet> Genius [06:39] <Ballistic Planet> 42 [06:39] <Ballistic Planet> even better [06:39] <Ballistic Planet> PopCap is so (Smarty) [06:39] <Ballistic Planet> (Brainy) [06:39] <Murabito> or the current time but make it devour the whole group 2 tiles in front of it [06:39] <Ballistic Planet> that'd be good too [06:39] <Ballistic Planet> maybe even a little op [06:39] <Murabito> that would kind of go against logic tho [06:39] <Ballistic Planet> ehh [06:39] <Ballistic Planet> I guess not [06:39] <Murabito> but it's pvz [06:40] <Iamarepeater> Or make chomper one shot gargs [06:40] <Ballistic Planet> no [06:40] <Ballistic Planet> it wouldn't be op [06:40] <Ballistic Planet> that wouldn't work [06:40] <Ballistic Planet> his mouth isn't big enough [06:40] <Iamarepeater> Explain T-rex [06:40] <Ballistic Planet> //@Crayon I'm moving Imitater up on my tier list [06:40] <Murabito> t rex has a fucking gigantic mouth [06:40] <Murabito> yay [06:40] <Ballistic Planet> He hits Garg from the back [06:40] <Ballistic Planet> and slams his face to the ground [06:41] <Ballistic Planet> and with the force of the impact [06:41] <Ballistic Planet> he dies [06:41] <Iamarepeater> Chomper should also do that [06:41] <Murabito> ouch [06:41] <Murabito> that sounds painful [06:41] <Ballistic Planet> is Chomper strong enough for that? [06:41] <Murabito> kiwibeast is a new favorite huh [06:41] <Ballistic Planet> His body seems too tiny for that to work [06:41] <Ballistic Planet> yes [06:41] <Ballistic Planet> I love Kiwibeast [06:41] <Ballistic Planet> a lot [06:41] <Ballistic Planet> he's going on my favorites [06:42] <Ballistic Planet> in the august update [06:42] <Ballistic Planet> above banan Launcher [06:42] <Ballistic Planet> even [06:42] <Ballistic Planet> vut I don't like banana Launcher all that much anymore [06:42] <Ballistic Planet> tbh [06:43] <Murabito> sad [06:43] <Ballistic Planet> Spoilers [06:43] <Ballistic Planet> Hurrikale is still my favorite plant [06:43] <Ballistic Planet> I'm even moving him up in my tier list [06:43] <Iamarepeater> They should have given Banana launchers a 3x3 blast impact/deal 90 damage [06:43] <Ballistic Planet> 3x3 [06:43] <Murabito> so [06:43] <Ballistic Planet> o/ [06:43] <Higehigebomber> Shazem [06:43] <Murabito> nobody would use strawburst then ;-; [06:44] <Iamarepeater> Or even better, bring back cob cannon [06:44] <Ballistic Planet> make him take logner to get the Banana back [06:44] <Ballistic Planet> I still like Banana more than Cob Cannon [06:44] <Iamarepeater> NO! [06:44] <Ballistic Planet> tbh [06:44] <Iamarepeater> That's nerfing [06:44] <Murabito> banana is cute [06:44] <Ballistic Planet> ^ [06:44] <Higehigebomber> Rant cus mad [06:44] <Higehigebomber> Video games are a dying art, I can't find any fun games anymore. All I'm doing is grinding in Fire Emblem for hours on end, and accomplishing nothing since apparently I need to do this in order to have a team that can work in online battles. [06:44] <Murabito> ok [06:45] <Ballistic Planet> You can replace Fier Emblem with Pokemon [06:45] <Ballistic Planet> and get the same result [06:45] <Ballistic Planet> tbh [06:45] <Ballistic Planet> Fire* [06:45] <Higehigebomber> And as for other games, micro transactions [06:45] <Higehigebomber> Any and all content can be yours for just $15 [06:45] <Murabito> I like the older fire emblems [06:45] <Murabito> the newer ones are straight up [06:45] <Murabito> weeb [06:45] <Higehigebomber> But don't forget to buy this $30 add-ons [06:45] <Higehigebomber> Yeah they are and I'm stuck in Weeb Emblem Fates [06:46] <Ballistic Planet> hmm [06:46] <Ballistic Planet> I'm considering moving Moonflower out of the A-tier [06:46] <Ballistic Planet> to the B-tier [06:46] <Ballistic Planet> but top of the B-tier [06:46] <Murabito> nuuuu [06:46] <Ballistic Planet> because as a sun producer she's not that great [06:46] <Higehigebomber> The only game that I play that is probably fun anymore if PvZ 2 but it's gotten boring since I casually grinded over 400 levels in Dead Mans Booty. [06:46] <Higehigebomber> Not to mention ded [06:47] <Ballistic Planet> PVZ2 has a lot of micros in it too [06:47] <Murabito> I find pod to be the easiest [06:47] <Ballistic Planet> 6 of them are fucking incredible [06:47] <Ballistic Planet> POd is the easiest [06:47] <Ballistic Planet> TOB is a close second tho [06:47] <Iamarepeater> I thought DMB was the easiest [06:48] <Ballistic Planet> I was able to survive 60 levels in TOB without power Lily using a shit strategy [06:48] <Murabito> you guys should try my httdr selection [06:48] <Murabito> $19/magento hax required [06:48] <Ballistic Planet> "bring fucking everything op" [06:48] <Murabito> in a nutshell yes [06:48] <Murabito> look at my tier list [06:48] <Higehigebomber> Yeah but the currency transactions can be completely avoided since the currency is paper-weight, the extra content (plants) being locked behind $$ urks me but it's not as bad as every other game on the market that makes basic currency hard to get and required for basic functions. [06:48] <Iamarepeater> You know what's dumb? [06:48] <Ballistic Planet> Op Plants vs. Good Zombie [06:48] <Murabito> look at S tier [06:48] <Murabito> take out primal wallnut [06:48] <Murabito> there [06:49] <Murabito> httdr strat [06:49] <Ballistic Planet> Template:MuraTiers linking myself this [06:49] <Higehigebomber> @iama What is? [06:49] <Iamarepeater> You have all the OP plants [06:49] <Murabito> imitate eon [06:49] <Iamarepeater> And you still lose to a basic zombie [06:49] <Ballistic Planet> ehh [06:49] <Ballistic Planet> I'm not moving Moonflowe rout [06:49] <Murabito> yay [06:49] <Ballistic Planet> Moonflower out* [06:49] <Ballistic Planet> I'm moving her down though [06:49] <Murabito> aw [06:50] <Murabito> so yeah [06:50] <Ballistic Planet> Change [06:50] <Murabito> top 8 plants [06:50] <Murabito> are my httdr plants [06:50] <Ballistic Planet> Twin Sunflower and Moonflower ar enoe seperate [06:50] <Ballistic Planet> are now* [06:50] <Murabito> *separate [06:50] <Ballistic Planet> TSF is 30, MF is 31 [06:50] <Ballistic Planet> fine [06:50] <Ballistic Planet> you iwn [06:50] <Ballistic Planet> win [06:50] <Murabito> kek [06:50] <Higehigebomber> The only thing I like about PvZ 2 compared to other games is that the micro transactions aren't required for basic gameplay. You can just make use of the Zen Garden for BS like BWB, and those Garg levels that got harder when all you have is weed and kernel [06:51] <Higehigebomber> Nice [06:51] <Ballistic Planet> I'm moving down Kernel-pult and Escape Root [06:51] <Ballistic Planet> from B-tier to C-tier [06:51] <Murabito> the op primal wallnut is somehow worse than primal sunflower for me [06:51] <Murabito> which is a balanced plant [06:51] <Ballistic Planet> lol