Board Thread:Internal management/@comment-7091122-20170617134530/@comment-7091122-20170619172254

Bearjedi wrote: Camwood777 wrote: Bearjedi wrote: YammaYamer21 wrote: Bearjedi wrote: Except they're dictators in total power of a country. This is a wiki, which is almost completely different. Plenty of those dictators' actions can not happen on this wiki, especially things like execution. You cannot die in a wiki. Yes, you might be demoted/blocked, but I'll get to that. Remember, a wiki is meant to share information about a certain topic, and a country's purpose is completely different.

Also how can dictatorship happen if we have multiple bureaucrats? They all have the ability to put a stop to dictatorship, and if we get "executed", then they can easily end our block/repromote us. It's not likely they will all be on one side and become as cruel as the dictators mentioned above.

Also, what Vex meant was that dictatorship won't harm anyone on this wiki. He still makes his point that dictators aren't a very positive force.

But just look at Rome's history and you'll find that that's a load of nonsense. Quite simply, a couple of bureaucrats could use public opinion and their own power to get rid of the other bureaucrats via demotions or blocks, then get rid of their partners in a similar fasion, like Julius Caesar.

And yes, it will. What if we get a dictator that hates zombie genders and starts to delete every comment that tries to say anything for it and censor users with such opinions via blocks? I think you are very confused here. Bureaucrats CANNOT demote other bureaucrats, and if this scenario hasn't happened in the past, it's likely to not happen now. Also, bureaucrats can just unblock themselves.

This one rule isn't going to limit them from performing this scenario. They easily have the power to have done it, even if the rule wasn't removed (doing that doesn't even violate the dictatorship rule anyway so). One sentence on a bullet isn't limiting them at all, and if you don't think that's true, remember what this thread is all about. Jack removing the dictatorship rule without a vote. Exactly.

Dictatorship is impossible since the dictator would have the same rights as all the other bureaucrats.

Like I said, a dictator is when ONE person has total power over the wiki.

Bureaucrats aren't limited by this rule, but they choose to follow it. So they could have the other bureaucrats demoted by asking Wikia staff, thusly meaning there aren't any other bureaucrats? It's really not too difficult, so long as they provide proof the wiki wanted it. Uh, no? A vote has to win first, and bureaucrats cannot demote themselves. You can't just contact Wikia Staff and say "Hey, demote TULO, or maybe Jack." and think they'll do it.

Like I said, the bureaucrats are not limited by this one sentence. They choose to follow it for the greater good, and if one of them wanted to, they could simply just cause chaos on this wiki already. Eliminating all the other bureaucrats isn't even dictatorship until the last one starts doing crap. And even then, it's unlikely to only have one bureaucrat since we'll just find another one to promote if that happens. By the way, it won't.

No dictatorship is a pointless rule, and it's impossible for it to happen. From my original post you are replying to: "so long as they provide proof the wiki wanted it."

A vote would have to happen, but if they were okay with that, they could feasibly become a dictator. And given this vote is currently set to be oppose unless vote count changes...