Board Thread:Plants vs. Zombies 2/@comment-26239911-20151227220415/@comment-24203813-20151228221720

TheGollddMAN wrote: Dekagamer7X9 wrote:

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Dekagamer7X9 wrote:

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Dark Ranger 007 wrote:

Dekagamer7X9 wrote: Why does everybody want a defensive shadow plant in part 2? We have enough defensive plants as it is, what else could it do? Must I list all the ones we have so far?


 * Wall-nut
 * Tall-nut
 * Pumpkin
 * Infi-nut
 * Chard Guard
 * Endurian
 * Celery Stalker
 * Garlic
 * Primal Wall-nut
 * Sweet Potato

And as for China exclusives...


 * White Radish
 * Vigorous Broccoli
 * Torchwood (when upgraded to level 2 or higher)
 * Small Chestnut Team
 * Pineapple

Let me know if I missed any. Bottom line, there's not much you can do with a defensive shadow plant that can't already be achieved by plants we already have. Pumpkin!? Also you missed Peanut Pumpkin is in Plants vs. Zombies 1, is it not? But it's not in PvZ2, thus not counting for the list. What more could a new one do that we haven't already seen? Most new plants already do what we've seen by combining abilities. Even the existing Shadow plants are old abilities rehashed somewhat into new abilities. So what's the problem combining two defensive plants in one with that powered and not powered gimmick? Moonflower, Nightshade, and Shadow-shroom, for the most part bring at least something new to the table. What could a defensive shadow plant do? Here's some I can think of:


 * It could be a generic defensive plant that has more health when boosted. (Wall-nut, Red Stinger)
 * It could be a generic defensive plant that gains a long-ranged attack when boosted. (Wall-nut, Red Stinger)
 * It could be an attacking plant that becomes defensive when boosted. (Red Stinger, Pea-nut)
 * It could be a generic defensive plant that gains a melee attack when boosted. (Wall-nut, Endurian, Level Upgraded White Radish)
 * Or we could literally give it the function of any other defensive plant when it's boosted.

But, I can't even think of a way it could have an ability that doesn't just outright copy the abilities of another plant. Shadow Nut

Recharge: Mediocre

Toughness: Elevated

Sun cost: 75

Shadow Nut begins as a shadow. It stays that way until a zombie walks onto its tile, at which point its borders solidify, trapping the zombie inside. Trapped zombies cannot use special abilities to insta-kill the nut because of the pitch darkness in the nut. Instead, they must eat there way out. A maximum of two zombies can be contained in the nut. Gargantuars cannot be trapped.

Moonflower Boost Effect: Over time Shadow Nut will grow, similar to how Sun Shroom grows. When in its middle stage of growth, it absorbs 80 bites and can trap up to 4 zombies. When in its last stage of growth, it absorbs 160 bites and can trap 8 zombies. While that is pretty creative, not only would popcap likely not make anything like that, but I myself can't see any point in using that plant. If becomes a generic defensive plant upon being stepped on, and the zombies inside it constantly eat it, what exactly is the point of using it for defense other than emergency situations? 1. That's why we call it as an "idea".

2. That's true. Only yourself.

3. You really like that term don't you.

4. Defensive plants are meant for emergency situations. That's what they are there for. To stall a group of zombies close to your house when you're building up sun or trying to plant an expensive plant so that you can kill them efficiently. 1. And we all know the fans usually make more creative ideas than popcap.

2. Indeed. My opinion. I'm not trying to make others agree with it.

3. Well, it's a term that makes sense for describing a plant that just absorbs damage.

4. What I'm saying is that a defensive plant that gradually loses it's health over time (and loses it's health even faster than normal when being eaten) wouldn't be very helpful for the situation you listed. If I'm stopping a zombie so I can set up sun production and defenses, I'm not going to be very well off when the zombie eventually escapes. And if more zombies arrive, they'd help the zombie trapped inside escape even faster. I'm better off using a Wall-nut.