Plants vs. Zombies Wiki:Chat/Logs/29 November 2016

 [11:04]  :O [11:10]  (gatling pea) If naked girls can get thousands of likes, how many can our troops get? [11:15]  :O [11:26]  anyone home? [11:29]  Ho-ho-howdy! [11:32]  Whenever I go on chat [11:32]  There is a scenic NOTHING going on [11:33]  It makes me wonder if the sock attacks are even real :P [11:33]  Chat over? Virus equals very yes? That's not a good prize! [11:46]  refreshed to see if chet died [11:04]  :O [11:10]  (gatling pea) If naked girls can get thousands of likes, how many can our troops get? [11:15]  :O [11:26]  anyone home? [11:29]  Ho-ho-howdy! [11:32] <Camwood777> Whenever I go on chat [11:32] <Camwood777> There is a scenic NOTHING going on [11:33] <Camwood777> It makes me wonder if the sock attacks are even real :P [11:33] <IMCR8Z> Chat over? Virus equals very yes? That's not a good prize! [11:46] <IMCR8Z> refreshed to see if chet died [12:05] <Camwood777> I had to make a deck strictly for 15-5 [12:06] <Camwood777> 2 of them. [12:06] <Camwood777> Whoever made 15-5 in PvZH, for the Plant Side [12:06] <Camwood777> SCREW. YOU. [12:06] <Camwood777> I swear the game is hardcoded to screw you over as hard as possible [12:06] <Camwood777> With counters for EVERYTHING [12:06] <Camwood777> And in case you somehow corner her, she'd probably arrive at your door with a bazooka and kill you IRL. [12:08] <Camwood777> So uh [12:08] <Camwood777> If I am pronounced dead by tomorrow [12:08] <Camwood777> At least you will know it was because Immortica killed me with a bazooka [12:10] <Jackfrancis007>. [12:10] <Jackfrancis007> what a warm welcome [12:11] <Jackfrancis007> imma just sip some bleach [12:12] <Jackfrancis007> : sips sum bleach : [12:12] <Jackfrancis007> bai kidsh [12:13] <Camwood777> Stop yourself. [12:43] <IMCR8Z> bak [12:43] <IMCR8Z> @Mura: Damn, your cat's into some kinky shit [12:44] <Murabito> I know [12:47] <IMCR8Z> bestiality AND feet sniffing [12:47] <Camwood777> Not nearly as much as me [12:49] <IMCR8Z> Dear god, no [12:50] <Camwood777> I mean [12:50] <Camwood777> I won't prove it if you don't ask. [12:50] <Camwood777> But hint: no I'm not into either of the stuff Mura' cat is [12:51] <IMCR8Z> K [12:52] <IMCR8Z> on the subject of kinky shit, Immortica's into bondage, vore, and herbophilia: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/plantsvszombies/images/5/50/IMG_0345-1-.png/revision/latest?cb=20160724004920 [12:53] <Camwood777> Immortica is into mental torture of the poor plant heroes if 15-5 indicates anything. [12:53] <Murabito> wtf [12:54] <Murabito> immorticia uses undying pharaoh [12:54] <Murabito> hax [12:54] <Murabito> i call bs [12:54] <Camwood777> She probably has a rocket launcher to kill your IRL if you clear 15-5 [12:54] <Camwood777> Seriously, 15-5 is the least fun level in all of PvZH history. [12:54] <Camwood777> Even worse than BWB. [12:54] <Murabito> wait until you see 20-5 for zombies [12:55] <Murabito> it's just the sheer overstattedness of the plants [12:55] <Murabito> 1 sun 2/3 snowdrop [12:55] <Murabito> really? [12:55] <Murabito> 3/5 cabbagepult [12:55] <Camwood777> Couldn't hear you with having a counter for LITERALLY EVERYTHING [12:56] <Murabito> even rustbolt's removals are too slow [12:56] <Murabito> removing one out of five plants on turn 3 is not going to help [12:57] <Camwood777> I mean [12:57] <Camwood777> My rustbolt deck is mainly armored + flag zombie + camel crossing [12:58] <Murabito> mine is geared towards control [12:58] <Murabito> so no arm wrestler bullshit [12:58] <Camwood777> I use mine since that's a giant fribbin' wall of HP [12:58] <Murabito> just mad amounts of removals [12:58] <Camwood777> It's nearly impenetrable without tricks if it can be gotten up properly [12:58] <Murabito> and strong late game drops [12:58] <Murabito> and mad chemist [12:58] <Murabito> boy do I love mad chemist [12:59] <Camwood777> I mainly like stalling the hell outta stuff with Rustbolt. [12:59] <Camwood777> Just take all their abuse, and then just slowly decimate them. [01:00] <Murabito> stalling = control [01:00] <Murabito> swarming = aggro [01:00] <Murabito> somewhere in between those = midrange [01:01] <Murabito> repeat moss shenanigans and many others = combo [01:02] <Murabito> actually swarming is zoo [01:02] <Murabito> not aggro [01:02] <IMCR8Z> afk, gonna play some GW2 [01:02] <Murabito> aggro is just a focus of getting as much damage as possible onto the enemy hero [01:02] <IMCR8Z> O hai, Bonk choy If! [01:02] <Murabito> zoo focuses on efficient trades using minions [01:03] <VeXJL> Zoo? [01:03] <Murabito> a deck archetype in collectible card games [01:03] <Murabito> there are five archetypes: aggro, midrange, control, combo, zoo [01:03] <VeXJL> I will never trade unless if I want to save my cards. [01:04] <VeXJL> f*** that. [01:04] <Murabito> face never trade [01:04] <Murabito> smorc [01:04] <Murabito> the face is the place [01:04] <Murabito> smorc [01:04] <VeXJL> I usually overpower my opponents with my Bananasaurus Rex, so no. [01:05] <VeXJL> Also, people never seem to have Rocket Science or Locust Swarm for some reason [01:05] <VeXJL> Removal cards are important [01:06] <Murabito> megagrow legendaries are terrible [01:06] <VeXJL> They're Ok. [01:06] <VeXJL> Just don't have Doubled Mint [01:07] <Murabito> doubled mint is trash and so is bananasaurus [01:07] <VeXJL> Got 3 Bananasaurus Rexes in my Green Shadow deck so I can easily replace them. [01:07] <Camwood777> They're not trash [01:07] <Camwood777> They just get destroyed so fribbin' easily [01:07] <Murabito> they're literally piles of stats [01:07] <Camwood777> To the point that they might as well be nonexistant TBH [01:07] <VeXJL> Also, Magic Beanstalk, Bean Counter, and Mayflower can buff Bananasaurus Rexes. [01:07] <VeXJL> along with other cards [01:08] <Camwood777> Doubled mint might as well be a "kick me" sign [01:08] <VeXJL> Ikr. [01:08] <VeXJL> If you're Z Mech and your opponent has Doubled Mint and you couldn't destroy it, you're as good as dead. [01:08] <Murabito> good legendaries are defined by having a game-changing effect on the turn they're played [01:08] <VeXJL> I have The Great Zucchini too. Relax [01:09] <VeXJL> Legendaries are often too expensive too. [01:09] <Camwood777> Doubled Mint is destroyed on the turn it's played anyhow [01:09] <Murabito> so three headed chomper and cornucopia qualify as good legendaries [01:09] <VeXJL> Sometimes [01:09] <Camwood777> Heck yeah they are, they're actually USEFUL [01:09] <Murabito> dandy king qualifies as a good legendary [01:09] <VeXJL> no [01:09] <Camwood777> And also don't get destroyed on turn 1 by a wayward bungee plumber. [01:09] <Murabito> or a rolling stone [01:09] <Camwood777> Danky King is actually really good TBH [01:09] <Murabito> or just reducing its attack to 0 [01:09] <Murabito> 0 doubled = 0 [01:09] <VeXJL> Buffed. [01:10] <VeXJL> Well, Doubled Mint can cause an integer overflow... [01:10] <Camwood777> "can" [01:10] <Murabito> that's a technical oversight [01:10] <Camwood777> It dies on turn 1 instantly [01:10] <Murabito> not the card actually being good [01:10] <Camwood777> Because of wayward bungee plumbers. [01:10] <VeXJL> I know [01:11] <Camwood777> Doubled Mint should honestly just be Super Rare [01:11] <VeXJL> AI's tend to put something like Conga Zombie on turn 2. [01:11] <Murabito> brainana should be a legendary [01:11] <Camwood777> It dies so quickly it might as well be as useful as a COMMON zombie [01:11] <VeXJL> bam. Doubled Mint [01:11] <VeXJL> Brainana shouldn't be a legendary. [01:11] <VeXJL> Brainana only does it for the turn it's played. [01:11] <Camwood777> Brainana is USEFUL but it's so not legendary worthy [01:11] <Camwood777> It only ruins tricks for 1 turn [01:11] <Murabito> restrict tricks for a turn [01:12] <Murabito> that's more than enough to crush your opponent's game plan [01:12] <VeXJL> Brainana can mindf*** AI's who think they can get away with Gargantuars' Feast [01:12] <VeXJL> So pretty useful [01:12] <VeXJL> Sometimes [01:12] <Murabito> dude about to clear your board and remove your stuff? [01:12] <Murabito> fuck that shit [01:12] <Murabito> dude about to teleport in wizard garg? [01:12] <Murabito> no [01:12] <VeXJL> Exactly. [01:12] <VeXJL> But it's not good against Sneaky. [01:12] <Murabito> it should totally be a legendary [01:13] <Camwood777> Meanwhile Doubled Mint dies so quickly I think getting it to just 16 HP is worthy of a wiki challenge [01:13] <VeXJL> Sneaky don't need tricks. [01:13] <Murabito> it very much does [01:13] <Camwood777> Why not? [01:13] <Camwood777> Smoke bomb? [01:13] <Murabito> what the fuck are you on [01:13] <VeXJL> Smoke Bomb is terrible [01:13] <Murabito> hahahaha [01:13] <VeXJL> Sneaky Tricks are terrible [01:13] <Murabito> are you fucking high [01:13] <Camwood777> I mean, it makes sense for it to be sneaky, at least. [01:13] <Camwood777> I never said it was good. [01:14] <Camwood777> Just that it made sense. [01:14] <VeXJL> Smoke Bomb is only useful when you want to MOVE a zombie. [01:14] <VeXJL> Moving isn't that good [01:14] <VeXJL> +1 strength can be reset by Mixed-Up Gravedigger [01:15] <Murabito> it is pretty damn good when a weakling is blocking your mini ninja [01:15] <VeXJL> Who uses fucking Mini Ninja? [01:15] <VeXJL> No. [01:15] <Camwood777> Impfinity? [01:15] <Camwood777> Oh look [01:15] <Murabito> just because a card isn't useful with another one doesn't mean it's a bad card [01:15] <Camwood777> Another Doubled Mint that died the turn I played it [01:15] <Camwood777> Thanks a lot for nothing, Impfinity [01:15] <Murabito> what rank are you [01:15] <Murabito> 10? [01:15] <Camwood777> You think you're clever using that your superpower to give it deadly [01:15] <VeXJL> I know but it sucks terribly. Backyard Bounce and Pogo Bouncer is much better [01:16] <VeXJL> Rank 30. I hate Ranked. [01:16] <Camwood777> I keep Doubled Mint to yell at it some more. [01:16] <Camwood777> Been stuck on Rank 21 since forever [01:16] <VeXJL> Doubled Mint should be recycled for Mixed-Up Gravedigger. [01:16] <VeXJL> All the time [01:16] <Murabito> doubled mint should be recycled for anything [01:16] <Camwood777> I'm collecting all the cards though. [01:16] <VeXJL> Agreed. [01:17] <Camwood777> I'm not recycling valuable cards 'til I have 3 of each [01:17] <Camwood777> Or unless I have duplicates. [01:17] <Murabito> tfw cornucopia summons a brainana [01:17] <VeXJL> Doubled Mint can buff Potted Powerhouses. [01:17] <Camwood777> Doubled Mint can only die on 1 turn [01:17] <Murabito> potted powerhouse is not a good card [01:17] <VeXJL> I know. [01:17] <Camwood777> Better than Doubled Mint. [01:17] <Camwood777> At least it can live for more than 1 turn. [01:17] <IMCR8Z> bak [01:17] <Camwood777> Heya IMCR8Z [01:17] <VeXJL> Just for those Hearty Zombies. [01:17] <Camwood777> I'm dissing Doubled Mint [01:18] <VeXJL> Wannabe Hero is terrible. [01:18] <Murabito> classes that go with hearty have removals [01:18] <Murabito> wannabe is removal bait [01:18] <VeXJL> Bad Removal Bait. [01:18] <Camwood777> If there was a plant that was removal bait [01:18] <VeXJL> Literally, it costs 1 sun to get rid of it. [01:18] <Murabito> good removal bait since it actually forces your opponent to waste one [01:18] <Camwood777> Doubled Mint would be it [01:18] <VeXJL> Have you heard of Flourish? [01:19] <Camwood777> It's legit only so bad since it's such good removal bait, it will ALWAYS DIE ON TURN ONE [01:19] <VeXJL> No seriously. [01:19] <Murabito> flourish is a card drawing card [01:19] <VeXJL> Exactly [01:19] <Murabito> what the fuck are you on about [01:19] <VeXJL> Iceberg Lettuce + Winter Squash [01:19] <VeXJL> ez monai [01:19] <Murabito> that's 5 sun [01:19] <VeXJL> If you already placed Winter Squash... [01:19] <Murabito> and is available to one class [01:19] <Camwood777> That doesn't die as fast as Doubled Mint [01:20] <Murabito> no one would leave a winter squash alone [01:20] <VeXJL> Doom-Shroom can take out multiple zombies. [01:20] <IMCR8Z> New theory: Dr. Zomboss is Crazy Dave, but unlike other "Dave and Zomboss are the same" theories, Zomboss is Crazy Dave from the future, where he is finally turned into a zombie after an intense battle. Unlike other zombies, he gets a mutation to give him ridiculous intelligence, and declares that zombies are superior to humans, thus making him go back in time to fight the Dave from the past. [01:20] <VeXJL> Also, Winter Squash can be buffed slightly by Plant Food. [01:20] <Murabito> especially not when they're about to place a big zombie [01:20] <Camwood777> @IMCR8Z: Is this how MatPat comes up with theories [01:20] <Murabito> doomshroom is available to one class [01:20] <VeXJL> So what? [01:20] <VeXJL> Deal with it. [01:20] <VeXJL> Not harrassment I swear [01:21] <VeXJL> I wasted 800 gems on Trick or Treater. It's god-awful. [01:22] <Camwood777> Does it die in 1 turn? [01:22] <VeXJL> Sometimes [01:22] <VeXJL> Depending on the opponent's class [01:22] <Camwood777> So it's better than Doubled Mint. [01:22] <VeXJL> No. [01:22] <IMCR8Z> Okay, admittedly it's kinda of a joke, but just for the hell of it I'll give my sole evidence: In GW2, both Dave and Zomboss have 3 grey buttons on their white shirt (this is most notable on the loading screen for the Backyard Battleground) [01:22] <Camwood777> At least it can survive for longer than 1 turn [01:22] <VeXJL> Sort of. [01:22] <VeXJL> Its ability is terrible [01:22] <TheNameSomething101> Well then... how would a PVZ cartoon work? it should be lik- *Censored by SEGA Lawsuit*hog, if anything... how would Japan think of PVZ? [01:23] <Camwood777> More highly than China [01:23] <Camwood777> Lighthouse Flower [01:23] <IMCR8Z> (oh) [01:23] <Camwood777> Oh great [01:23] <Camwood777> Another Doubled Mint [01:23] <Camwood777> How much you guys betting it'll die without even doubling [01:24] <VeXJL> ... Doubled Mint can be buffed. [01:24] <Camwood777> It got bounced [01:24] <Camwood777> Yes, it can [01:24] <Camwood777> But it dies before that [01:24] <IMCR8Z> And when future Dave was human, he got himself a 4th button for his shirt because that's the future, I guess. [01:24] <Camwood777> Aaaand it's dead. [01:24] <VeXJL> Plants turn is joined with Plant's tricks. [01:24] <Camwood777> Doubled Mint is literally fucking useless [01:24] <Murabito> buffing is just begging to be destroyed [01:24] <VeXJL> Its ability is. [01:25] <Murabito> unless you play fucking repeat moss [01:25] <VeXJL> Removal Bait [01:25] <Camwood777> A legendary removal bait [01:25] <VeXJL> Yep. [01:25] <Camwood777> Sums up that thing pretty accurately TBH [01:25] <VeXJL> Cheap too. [01:25] <Camwood777> "Cheap" [01:25] <Camwood777> Yeah [01:25] <Camwood777> If 4k sparks is cheap [01:25] <VeXJL> As in sun. [01:25] <VeXJL> Not sparks [01:26] <VeXJL> I only have 6 Legendaries, not including the one I recycled. [01:26] <TheNameSomething101> I know that's not gonna happen but... how the fuck would PVZ have a anime like halo legends or Sonic X? How would Popcap learn the Japanese thing? [01:26] <Camwood777> I only have all the legendaries for mega-grow [01:27] <VeXJL> EA does weird stuff, so anime can be considered... [01:27] <IMCR8Z> @TheName: Just do a regular cartoon, none of that weeb BS [01:27] <Camwood777> Anime isn't even real [01:28] <VeXJL> I got 3 Bananasaurus Rex, 1 The Great Zucchini, 1 Octo Zombie, and 1 Zombot Plank Walker. [01:28] <IMCR8Z> @Camwood: Tell that to the people who watch it [01:28] <VeXJL> Tbh, I think Zombot 1000 is better than Octo Zombie. [01:28] <TheNameSomething101> so, what? Sonic was Japanese... but he needs an cartoon that isn't Anime-styled? [01:28] <VeXJL> Sonic... vs. Zombies. [01:29] <Camwood777> Zombot 1000 is a "KILL EVERYTHING" button, what, would it be WORSE [01:29] <VeXJL> Idk. [01:29] <Murabito> zombot 1k is obviously better [01:29] <VeXJL> Instead, I've got The Great Zucchini, which is a great counter against Zombot 1000 [01:30] <Murabito> teleport turns terrible zombies into op ones [01:30] <VeXJL> Teleport to Zombot 1000 can be countered by Grapes of Wrath and Brainananananananananana [01:30] <Camwood777> Winter Melon is he only decent legendary plant for mega grow TBH [01:30] <VeXJL> Mega-Grow? [01:30] <VeXJL> Smarty [01:30] <Camwood777> Oh [01:30] <Camwood777> Sorry [01:31] <Camwood777> Green Shadow can use it so [01:31] <VeXJL> Knowledge for the Smartyness [01:31] <VeXJL> I don't have Winter Melon. [01:31] <VeXJL> I think it's crap though. [01:31] <Camwood777> &gt;winter melon [01:31] <Camwood777> &gt;crap [01:31] <Camwood777> What [01:31] <Camwood777> Have you seen the competition it has [01:31] <Camwood777> Like the glory of [01:31] <VeXJL> It's better in PvZ2 [01:31] <Camwood777> Doubled Mint [01:31] <Camwood777> Yeah, I'll take that over Winter Melon in my Green Shadow deck [01:32] <VeXJL> Doubled Mint is a disgrace. Don't compare Winter Melon to that. [01:32] <Camwood777> I see how it's superior to Winter Melon in every way now [01:32] <Camwood777> I'm kidding :P [01:32] <VeXJL> I don't have any Splash Damage plants... [01:32] <VeXJL> I recycled my Snapdragon in my first playthrough [01:32] <Camwood777> WHAT [01:32] <Camwood777> THE HECK [01:32] <Camwood777> IS WRONG WITH YOU [01:32] <VeXJL> wut [01:32] <Camwood777> WHY WOULD YOU EVER DO THAT [01:32] <VeXJL> why not [01:33] <Camwood777> WELL YOU CAN ROB A BANK [01:33] <Camwood777> BUT DO YOU EVER SAY WHY NOT? [01:33] <Camwood777> ARE YOU INSANE?! [01:33] <VeXJL> Snapdragon only has 1 health like Line Dancing Zombie. [01:33] <Camwood777> BUFFING EXISTS [01:33] <VeXJL> It doesn't buff its splash damage [01:33] <Camwood777> BUFFING ITS HEALTH [01:33] <Camwood777> Seriously dude [01:34] <Camwood777> Why would you ever recycle that [01:34] <VeXJL> That's near impossible in my first playthrough. Buffing its health I mean. [01:34] <Camwood777> Fertilizer? [01:34] <Camwood777> Ever heard of it? [01:34] <VeXJL> Still near impossible. [01:34] <Camwood777> Okay [01:34] <Camwood777> Are you insane [01:34] <Camwood777> Should I consider getting you to a home [01:34] <VeXJL> Instead, I got a bean deck. [01:34] <VeXJL> Worst deck of all. [01:34] <Camwood777> I think he needs intervention. [01:35] <Camwood777> OF COURSE IT WAS AWFUL [01:35] <Camwood777> IT WAS A BEAN DECK [01:35] <VeXJL> Stop it (silly) [01:35] <VeXJL> Hey, I've gotten better in my second playthrough as I can't play my first one. [01:35] <IMCR8Z> afk, playing Dead Rising [01:35] <Camwood777> Are you legally considered to have a disability, VeX? [01:35] <VeXJL> No. I've recovered. [01:36] <Camwood777> I still see zero reason why you would EVER recycle a Snapdragon [01:36] <Camwood777> Next you'll say you recycled Gargantuar's Feast. [01:36] <VeXJL> no.... [01:36] <Camwood777> Okay, thank god, you haven't suffered brain damage. [01:36] <VeXJL> But I did recycle Undying Pharaoh. [01:36] <VeXJL> the one legendary I recycled. [01:36] <Camwood777> Okay. [01:36] <Camwood777> I give up. [01:37] <Camwood777> I'm going to have to request you call a hotline immediately. [01:37] <Camwood777> Clearly, you are mentally unwell. [01:37] <VeXJL> Mixed-Up Gravedigger is much better than that Undying Pharaoh. [01:37] <Camwood777> Please call now before it gets worse. [01:37] <Camwood777> This is officially an intervention VeX [01:37] <VeXJL> Doom-Shroom can easily kill Undying Pharaoh. [01:37] <Camwood777> Please we're all concerned about the decisions you're making in life [01:38] <VeXJL> Oh my gosh, too concerned. Crossing the line. [01:38] <Camwood777> Seriously man [01:38] <VeXJL> Gargs' feast isn't that good anyways. [01:38] <Camwood777> Should I be calling 911? [01:38] <VeXJL> I would've recycled it for Coffee. [01:38] <Camwood777> Okay [01:38] <Camwood777> In that case [01:39] <Camwood777> What cards are GOOD? [01:39] <VeXJL> Super-Rare [01:39] <Camwood777> If Garg's Feast and Snapdragon are "bad" [01:39] <Camwood777> What do you consider "good?" [01:39] <VeXJL> Plus, legendaries were given stupid restrictions in BF10 's tournament [01:39] <Camwood777> Doubled Mint? [01:39] <VeXJL> Doubled Mint is bad. [01:39] <Camwood777> Okay [01:40] <Camwood777> You're not mentally INSANE [01:40] <VeXJL> Snow Pea is bad. [01:40] <Camwood777> Just mentally DAMAGED [01:40] <Camwood777> Okay, no, definitely mentally INSANE [01:40] <Camwood777> Have you even TRIED a freeze deck? [01:40] <Camwood777> Do you even know what SNOWDROP is?! [01:40] <VeXJL> Yep freeze deck with Green Shadow. [01:40] <Camwood777> Have you ever heard of Winter Squash? [01:40] <VeXJL> Got two in my deck [01:41] <VeXJL> so yes. [01:41] <Camwood777> Are you sure that it was a proper freeze deck, and not, in fact, a deck with 4 doubled mints? [01:41] <Camwood777> Are you certain it was not a breadbox? [01:41] <VeXJL> Yes, I'm sure because I don't even have doubled mint [01:41] <VeXJL> I posted my deck in the deck strategies page... [01:41] <Camwood777> Did you or did you not recycle all the freeze cards for doubled mints? [01:41] <Camwood777> Nah, I kid, at this point I'm just fuckin' with ya :P [01:42] <Camwood777> But seriously I see zero reason why you'd ever recycle garg's feast or snapdragon [01:42] <VeXJL> Freeze Cards? You can only recycle Chilly Pepper and Winter Squash, so Doubled Mint being purchased with the sparks from Winter Squash or Chilly Pepper... [01:42] <VeXJL> and Winter MELON [01:42] <TheNameSomething101> well then [01:43] <VeXJL> Ok, give me one reason why I should recycle Gargs' Feast instead of something like Espresso Fiesta. [01:43] <VeXJL> shouldn't [01:43] <VeXJL> sorry [01:43] <TheNameSomething101> What Videos would describe Rose Players in a nutshell? [01:43] <VeXJL> idk. [01:43] <VeXJL> PvZ GW2 or PvZH? [01:43] <TheNameSomething101> I was referring to PVZGW2 [01:44] <TheNameSomething101> They need to describe it in a nutshell [01:45] <VeXJL> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWRsPqNPVrY [01:45] <VeXJL> there. [01:46] <TheNameSomething101> Yep. That is Rose in a nutshell, right? [01:46] <VeXJL> Yep. [01:46] <VeXJL> Perfection in toilet paper. [01:47] <TheNameSomething101> This is pretty much my reaction to Solar Flare being canon in the next PVZ Game if there is one: https://youtu.be/2KbW3lE87PM?t=1m22s or more like? [01:47] <Camwood777> Solar Flare is literally the cutest tho [01:48] <Camwood777> She is the plant waifu of PvZ BTW [01:48] <Camwood777> Still nothing on the amount of plant waifus in Pokemon, but it's a start [01:48] <VeXJL> Solar Flare is just stupid. [01:48] <VeXJL> Rose is more stupid [01:48] <TheNameSomething101> VeXJL, Your reaction about that video that i linked? [01:48] <Camwood777> Where do you live, VeX? [01:49] <Camwood777> Do I need to look up crisis hotlines in your area? [01:49] <Camwood777> I'm starting to think this is of genuine concern. [01:49] <VeXJL> @thename I couldn't watch it. [01:49] <VeXJL> @Camwood I live in Canada. [01:49] <Camwood777> @VeX: You have free healthcare; you should just go to a doctor and you'll be able to get help from there. [01:50] <VeXJL> @Camwood O:) [01:50] <TheNameSomething101> Camwood, what's your reaction would be perfectly described in that video? [01:51] <TheNameSomething101> to PVZ character? [01:51] <VeXJL> Personally, I think Petal-Morphosis is an OK card if it wasn't for its cost. It can draw a card while turning a 1/1 plant into something better. No such thing as worse than 1/1. [01:52] <VeXJL> It's the only card in Kabloom class with Draw a Card. [01:55] <VeXJL> "Refuses to be nerfed." Ok, Rose, you need to be nerfed. F*** Goatify, f*** Time Snare, and f*** Arcane Enigma. Also, in PvZH terms, f*** Transmogrify, f*** Big Chill, and f*** Weed Whack. No one needs to know how fundamentally stupid your abilities are. [01:58] <VeXJL> Oh come on, is this chat dead? [01:59] <Fairy27> ... [01:59] <Fairy27> Welp... [01:59] <Fairy27> I'm not too sure about that :P . [02:00] <Ballistic Planet> o/ [02:01] <VeXJL> (bounce) [02:01] <Ballistic Planet> (bounce) [02:02] <Fairy27> Hi~ [02:03] <VeXJL> What a very well communication between us. [02:03] <Insert Your Name Here> taking rest from card game [02:03] <Fairy27> Hi IYNH~ [02:03] <Insert Your Name Here> I put a lot of time into doing the mayflower pack, so it's time to rest for me [02:04] <Insert Your Name Here> ok fairy godmother [02:04] <VeXJL> Trick or Treater f***ed me over. [02:04] <VeXJL> Mayflower Multipack is gonna be gone. [02:04] <Fairy27> I don't think I can buy the Mayflower Multipack so I bought two of them... [02:05] <Fairy27> A day and couple of hours won't fit well for me. [02:05] <VeXJL> I got two [02:05] <VeXJL> Trick or Treaters [02:05] <VeXJL> and one Mayflower. [02:05] <Camwood777> I got at least 1 mayflower [02:05] <Camwood777> I just want at least 1 of the events TBH [02:05] <Insert Your Name Here> I would say mayflower is a good addition [02:05] <Camwood777> Better than Doubled Mint. [02:06] <Insert Your Name Here> kinda similar to mad chemist [02:06] <VeXJL> Mayflower is great wiht Bananasaurus Rex [02:06] <Fairy27> Didn't buy Trick or Treater without knowing that the "Early Access" is not really early for now. [02:06] <VeXJL> Mental Damage: I can't spell with. [02:06] <Insert Your Name Here> Trick or treater is a complete waste of gems, and the tricks it bought also affected mad chemist [02:06] <VeXJL> Mispelling words intentionally. [02:07] <VeXJL> (happy) [02:07] <VeXJL> Trick or Treater's treats should cost 1 sun or 0 sun. [02:07] <VeXJL> brain [02:08] <VeXJL> Trick or Treater should also have the Gravestone trait like Mad Chemist to protect it from damage or insta-kill tricks. [02:09] <Fairy27> True. [02:09] <VeXJL> Mayflower is great with Green Shadow cuz of Plant Food and Espresso Fiesta. Also great with Bananasaurus Rex cuz it draws cards that draws even more cards. [02:09] <Insert Your Name Here> usually I don't play mad chemist on curve because of cherry blast [02:10] <Insert Your Name Here> berry blast [02:10] <VeXJL> Navy Bean from Mayflower can also buff Potted Powerhouse. [02:10] <Fairy27> Wow, I didn't think of that. [02:10] <Insert Your Name Here> Kinda bad that mad chemist can't be played on curve [02:10] <Fairy27> I use Mayflower on my Citron deck. [02:10] <VeXJL> What? [02:10] <Insert Your Name Here> Since turn 5 is when people starts rolling out the heavy stuff [02:11] <Fairy27> But never bothered adding that on a Green Shadow yet. [02:11] <VeXJL> Mayflower in Citron? How does that work? [02:11] <VeXJL> Smarty and Guardian don't go together very well. [02:11] <Fairy27> How I get more and more beans that is. [02:11] <VeXJL> Beans are weak. [02:12] <VeXJL> Ok most beans. [02:12] <Fairy27> It worked kinda well but now it's disappointing me. [02:12] <Insert Your Name Here> I would say aggro deck has a large advantage over control ones [02:12] <Insert Your Name Here> That [02:12] <VeXJL> What, Mayflower? [02:12] <Insert Your Name Here> That's what made solar flare so fearsome [02:12] <VeXJL> I guess... [02:12] <Fairy27> I would add Mayflower in a Rose deck but...it's not really based on a flower deck. [02:13] <Insert Your Name Here> Mushroom is a really powerful early game opener [02:13] <Insert Your Name Here> Only beaten by arm wrestler + sumo [02:13] <VeXJL> F*** Mushrooms. [02:13] <Fairy27> And I meant my Citron deck. [02:13] <VeXJL> Buff-Shroom, Grow-Shroom, and Shroom for two are the only good mushrooms. [02:14] <Insert Your Name Here> Solar flare can't handle late game that well [02:14] <VeXJL> Buff-Shroom can buff lots of mushrooms at once for Potted Powerhouse. [02:14] <Insert Your Name Here> Since in the late game the extra sun is meaningless [02:14] <VeXJL> Solar Flare has Cornucopia.... [02:14] <Insert Your Name Here> And she doesn [02:14] <VeXJL> Early Cornucopia is awesome. [02:14] <VeXJL> Solar Flare also has healing cards... [02:14] <Insert Your Name Here> She doesn't have many late game stuff with solid stats [02:15] <VeXJL> Agreed. [02:15] <Fairy27> Solar Flare really is bad late game due to large sun not being mattered anymore. [02:15] <VeXJL> Her goal is to finish the opponent off as soon as possible. Cornucopia and Kernel Corn should handle Late Game or Mid Game if added sun was included. [02:16] <VeXJL> Pineclone is one of the best ones there for Solar Flare. [02:16] <Insert Your Name Here> Kernel corn downright fails against zombie king tho [02:16] <VeXJL> Lol have you heard of Lawnmower? [02:16] <Insert Your Name Here> That's why you put your zombie king on roof [02:16] <Fairy27> Zombie King can annoy me sometimes if I can't destroy that thing early. [02:16] <Insert Your Name Here> Always anticipate that shit [02:17] <Insert Your Name Here> So the main way to kill zombie king is whack a zombie [02:17] <VeXJL> Cherry Bomb should kill off weak zombies. [02:17] <VeXJL> Chomper too. [02:17] <Insert Your Name Here> Which I have seen many people not bringing in time [02:17] <VeXJL> cuz of whack a zombie. [02:17] <Insert Your Name Here> Not really [02:18] <VeXJL> I thought Wall-King is annoying. [02:18] <Insert Your Name Here> Not many people use whack a zombie when I brought out zombie king [02:18] <Fairy27> Whack-a-Zombie is not being used by people too much. [02:18] <Insert Your Name Here> It's like really rare from my experience [02:18] <Insert Your Name Here> There's also the thing with landscaper [02:18] <Insert Your Name Here> Who can set up lane for zombie king [02:18] <VeXJL> Wall-Knight has Grave Buster, Doom-Shroom, Whack-a-Zombie, Chomper, Squash, Lawnmower, and Briar Rose [02:19] <Insert Your Name Here> And sumo too [02:19] <VeXJL> Annoying Control deck [02:19] <VeXJL> And then finish off with a Wall-Nut Bowling or some shit like that. [02:20] <Insert Your Name Here> Had a game where I covered the land lanes with knights and enemy used wall nut bowling [02:20] <Insert Your Name Here> All of the knights survived because the thing only dealt 4dmg [02:20] <VeXJL> Basically, Wall-King controls till turn 7 and then spams Soul Patch, then at turn 10 + spams Wall-Nut Bowling. [02:20] <Fairy27> Speaking of Soul Patch, I just activated its glitch :P. [02:20] <VeXJL> Doom-Shroom should take out stuff at turn 9 before Wall-Nut Bowling. [02:21] <Fairy27> Oh wait, that was yesterday. [02:21] <VeXJL> Idk about Soul Patch. Fill me in. [02:21] <Murabito> I play a control deck [02:21] <Murabito> I am a boring person [02:21] <VeXJL> Wall-Knight also spams Cornucopia at turn 10+ [02:21] <Insert Your Name Here> There's the thing about control decks [02:21] <Insert Your Name Here> 1. Cost much more dust than aggro ones [02:22] <Insert Your Name Here> 2. Being much harder to play [02:22] <Murabito> tfw they roll rescue radish and brainana [02:22] <VeXJL> yep [02:22] <Insert Your Name Here> 3. Being only as effective as aggro decks can be [02:22] <Murabito> aggro is no skill [02:22] <VeXJL> Sadly, all that's wrong. [02:22] <Murabito> "face never trade" [02:22] <Insert Your Name Here> So for noobs, why bother wasting dust on cornucopia while you can go shroom for 2 and kill everything [02:23] <Murabito> I have a 14k spark control deck [02:23] <VeXJL> As stated before, Wall-King has everything to kill zombies. [02:23] <Fairy27> I'll wait for my luck to get Cornucopia through packs and not crafting. [02:23] <Murabito> wallknight is a control hero [02:23] <Murabito> that's why [02:23] <Murabito> I'd save up dust for a legendary I really like [02:23] <VeXJL> Wall-King controls till turn 7, spam Soul Patch, then turn 10, spams Wall-Nut Bowling and Cornucopia. [02:23] <Murabito> that's still control [02:23] <VeXJL> Exactly. [02:24] <Murabito> control rustbolt generally outlasts other control decks [02:24] <VeXJL> Nope [02:24] <VeXJL> Wall-King is better. [02:24] <Murabito> would me removing 3 5/6 snowdrops change your mind [02:24] <VeXJL> 3 strength aren't affected and Landscapers are killed with Grave Buster [02:25] <Insert Your Name Here> Let's just say this [02:25] <VeXJL> Pay2Win Wall-King is the best deck. Aggro will never be as awesome. [02:25] <Murabito> if not, what about a cornucopia that rolled soul patch and kernel corn [02:25] <Murabito> and I removed all three of them [02:25] <VeXJL> Wall-King does that shit. [02:26] <Insert Your Name Here> If the rustbolt guy realized he can't out control the wall knight guy, he can also end the game early on turn 6 with cheap minions + monster mash [02:26] <VeXJL> Nope. [02:26] <VeXJL> Doom-Shroom [02:26] <Murabito> shut up [02:26] <Insert Your Name Here> Checking the dust cost on aggro vs control decks [02:26] <VeXJL> If you don't know the fundamentals of Wall-King, Wall-King insta-kills basically anything. [02:27] <VeXJL> Plus, Uncrackable draws a card. [02:27] <Murabito> wall knight loses to aggro [02:27] <VeXJL> Nut Signal too. [02:27] <Murabito> combustible is a fucking lame hero [02:27] <Murabito> repeat moss requires so much skill [02:27] <VeXJL> Wall-King has stuff like Poppin' Poppies, so Aggro is ineffective. [02:28] <Insert Your Name Here> Realized I haven't used face freeze deck for a while [02:28] <Insert Your Name Here> "turn 6" [02:28] <Insert Your Name Here> "vs aggro" [02:28] <Murabito> aggro rolls you over on turn 4 [02:28] <VeXJL> Turn 6 with aggro is usually the turning point in which aggro starts to lose. [02:29] <Insert Your Name Here> So aggro just kills you before turn 6 instead [02:29] <Murabito> ^ [02:29] <VeXJL> Yep. But Sunflower saves the day. [02:29] <Murabito> gl trying to ramp against aggro [02:29] <VeXJL> Water Balloons are cheap and reduces strength. [02:30] <VeXJL> To sum up: You guys don't know about Pay2Win Wall-King. [02:30] <Murabito> we probably played this game a lot longer than you did [02:30] <VeXJL> *probably* [02:31] <Fairy27> I didn't follow, what do you mean by Wall-King again? [02:31] <VeXJL> Wall-Knight [02:31] <Fairy27> A perfect wall deck for Wall-Knight? [02:31] <Insert Your Name Here> some shit about stuff being "OP" [02:31] <VeXJL> promotion to Wall-King