Board Thread:Plants vs. Zombies Heroes/@comment-5760976-20180318131218/@comment-27462035-20180321051749

GrucYord wrote: VeXJL wrote: GrucYord wrote: VeXJL wrote: GrucYord wrote: VeXJL wrote: GrucYord wrote: VeXJL wrote: Plant Protecter wrote: For me, Multiplayer has officially become a nightmare.

When I battle now, I nearly always face Ultimate League players, who almost ALWAYS beat the living daylights out of me, even when I look like I have the upper hand (looking at you, Professor Brainstorm).

And the worst part? I am Rank 45 with no stars. I have around 6.5 days to get to Ultimate League, and I am REALLY doubting that I will make it with all these Ultimate Leaguers. I would appreciate help ASAP. -- try Rose. She's a hard counter against Professor Brainstorm -- She's not when PBS is using Valk, since Valks are anti-control. If you are focusing on ramp more  that would be a better counter. Rose has ramp, you know. She also has the holy plant called Wing-Nut which makes her worth using against typical Valk combos. With certain plants, she can almost entirely shut down the use of Valkyrie and its combos. Professor has removal, you know. He also has the holy trick called Exploding Fruitcake which makes him less vulneralble against certain anti-Valk plants. With certain cards, he can almost entirely defeat of the use of anti-Valkyrie plants by aggroing the plant hero before they are played.

But seriously, Bullseye Aggro into Mustache Monument Valk has been how I ranked into Ultimate, and Control Rose is really just helping out finishing themselves. You probably haven't faced an equally skilled rose. Control early game with splash, ramp up to Wing-Nut, and spam anti-tricks until Professor can't control the board anymore. A key component in these decks is the ramp. Professor Brainstorm can't do much about Solar Winds, since OTK Valk is seen with very few environments. Solar Winds creates a huge disadvantage because they are chump blocks and they help rose ramp up to those important anti-bonus attack/trick cards. At that point, Professor Brainstorm can kiss college goodbye since he'll be too overwhelmed with splash damage while being unable to do anything because of anti-trick cards.

That's why I consider Rose a counter to him. Deadbeads into Final Mission are good counters to solar winds and Briar Rose, and trigger Valkyrie at the same time. Rose can't splash if you splash her first. Deadbeard can't do anything against Solar Winds because they'll just keep reproducing. ​ Placing Deadbeard ON the Solar Winds will stop it. Its the optimal turn 3 combo against SW into BR. Rose has transformation superpowers and can just retaliate with Wing-Nut or another Solar Winds instead of Briar Rose. (no Fruitcake)

At this point, I'm not gonna drag this discussion about OTK Valk and Rose. I still think that Rose is a counter against Professor Brainstorm and his shenanigans, and I want to keep that opinion to myself.