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The Ancient Pult Ancestor wrote: Leovergel.solamo wrote: The Ancient Pult Ancestor wrote: Leovergel.solamo wrote: The Ancient Pult Ancestor wrote: Leovergel.solamo wrote: The Ancient Pult Ancestor wrote: Leovergel.solamo wrote: The Ancient Pult Ancestor wrote: Leovergel.solamo wrote: The Ancient Pult Ancestor wrote: Leovergel.solamo wrote: The Ancient Pult Ancestor wrote: Leovergel.solamo wrote: The Ancient Pult Ancestor wrote: Leovergel.solamo wrote: The Ancient Pult Ancestor wrote: Leovergel.solamo wrote: The Ancient Pult Ancestor wrote: DatDramaPlant wrote: The Ancient Pult Ancestor wrote: Leovergel.solamo wrote: The Ancient Pult Ancestor wrote: //A response to The Winter Soldier's stats: Let’s remember, if The Terminator gets angry/powered by metal, he will unleash his true flames: the flames of the judgement heaven & hell, meaning no matter how resilient it is, if he wills it to burn, it will BURN. //That's unfair! I was planning a better climatic ending than that. Bucky's arm is purely his arm, not a weapon. My plan is that your Expendables are about to get defeated leaving Bucky and the Terminator in the battle. The Terminator bet badly bruised after the intensed bare-brawling combat. When Bucky is about to shoot Terminator to finish his life, he shot his shades instead. The Spirit of Vengeance glowed to hiseyes and suddenly remembered his pass and flee. Not to add more spoilers for now.

I know your characters are POWERFUL, but all I want is a close-defeat scene and a revival of memory scene. If you change the plot you gave (that part where you burn his arm and toss him to another dimension) to mine, that that would be fair. Just make it happen OK? Sorry man, but no MEANS NO. First & foremost, The Expendables have seen worse. Second of all, the only guys who can defeat The Expendables or come that close are The Necro-Expendables. No other can match them. Third of all, The Terminator is a terminator, he can rip adamantium in his bare hands, & only be beaten by another terminator like Kassandros, who is the worthiest opponent he can & will ever face, for Kassandros holds within him the nemesis (& torturer) of The Spirit Of Vengeance. Fourth, The Spirit Of Vengeance does not flee. If he looks at someone’s eyes, it means going down to hell.

In short, mate, NO MEANS NO, so Leo, FORGET IT. I'm not having you use my characters if that's the case, because I'm in charge of their stories, not you. You want this story to happen? Get another character of your own to do that. The Expendables can only be matched by their zombie counterparts, nothing else. That's................................................................................................................................... kind of rude. Here, let me say it nicer. I'm not giving him the permission to use my characters for a purpose that goes against them. My characters ain't some sort of toothpick or platform or anything for him to use, because I never used his characters as such. I don't care how great a plot it is, if it goes against the characters, if it means misinterpretation (let's remember, they have a cyborg, two superheroes, & two terminators (& one heavyweight champ & super soldier if we include Rocky)), then no can do. Period. If it's rude, sorry. Sorry, I really am. But still, even if this shatters our slight friendship, if I meant no, it means *shakes head*. You don't own them, mate, to dictate how their s*** goes. I own them (my characters), not you.

Nothing but The (Necro) Expendables can beat The (Botanical) Expendables, & vice versa. Anyone else either gets repelled or dies. Period. That's it. Plain it. Period.

One more thing like that, & you can't use any of my characters ever again, Leo. They ain't some sort of clay that anyone else (but I) can bend anymore. That's almost how That Really Annoying Guy screwed things up in Jurassic Marsh roleplay#1: he can't respect lore or ownership (it's a good thing he vowed never to do it again)...

You see, I ask permission from the user first (like how I asked JungleStalker about the shipping). If they say no, I ask why. If they still say no, then fine. Who am I to force them? So I won't be taking another answer from you but "fine".

Do you get the idea now, mate?

Or do I have to explain that my characters are not meant for the role you want them to play because they are not yours to control AT ALL? Again, I repeat, no means a big fat no. Any questions?

Mate, it's better if you stay off of my characters, & we go our seperate ways if you don't get what I'm saying. Fair or not, i'll accept your punishment.

I was only saying if YOU could do it or change it. You use your characters im My ideal plot. However, you can still change my idea like how you use Ace in that triple alliance.

You should have said sometinh about your characters before I ever made the plot. You can't just give me unexpected punishment like that.

Get the cycle? You use your characters, I'll use mine. The storyline from mine with a few changes from yours.

Then again, SORRY for all I said before. I'll still allow you to use my characters. I hope this misunderstanding will never happen again, capish? I'm back.

To Leo, sorry, I must have heated up. But you should have asked me first before plans, so I could at least see if it falls well in the same vein as my stuff. But to tell you in advance plans involving my characters in such a way or depicting them incorrectly will certainly be terminated.

Oh, & I didn't ban you from using them. I just warned you.

 It's OK TAPA. Comrades again?

Plot changed. I will now make Bucky a terminator and your  characters didn't recognized this because he's been acting normal th e whole time.

The story is like this. Arca'mundo, the Arcane Dweller (I have to reveal later) wants to have a terminator which is not plant, not undead, but completely human. He was born a terminator as a living human. Arca'mundo told his parents to keep his powers concealed from anyone because an ice terminator might cause total destruction.

Even Zomboss don't recognise this. Zomboss will ask Zombnik to look for Bucky. Meanwhile, Bucky is stuck to another dimension with only an empty void, shelves of treasures and books, a glowing crystal orb, and the spirit of Arca'mundo himself.

Did you remember that I told you last time that one of the mentions zombies will become good. And that's Bucky.

Do you agree with the plot? Well, let's just have it that he & The Expendables never end up meeting due to a mission, although The Terminator detects a new terminator in the area before leaving. Or maybe they will meet when Bucky has changed sides... Also, Bucky don't know that he has powers at all. He will have also some rivalry against Kassandros because he has terminating powers while he has not (because he didn't know). Kassandros also look at Bucky as a lowly trooper.

I will feature this to a new RP.

Title: Bucky's Preserved Memories. Not really a rivalry. Let's have it that Kassandros (since he is The Terminator's equivalent, he is one of Zomboss's 2nd-in-commands) commands Bucky to hard menial tasks & dangerous missions all the time. Then, when Bucky defects, Kassandros tries to terminate him, but The Terminator saves his (undead) life (as I said, only The (Botanical) Expendables can match The (Necro) Expendables, & vice versa, especially since these two are terminators & the heads of their team, & the fact that yes, I want it to make it that only one person can really beat them: one another. So yeah, if you plan it that Bucky beats Kassandros or a Necro-Expendable, forget it).

I suggest that if Bucky is to have a nemesis, it should be a plant (which is, of course, not a Botanical Expendable).

Plus, Kassandros is also the host of Mephistopheles, Spirit Of Chaos, archrival of Zarathos, the Spirit Of Vengeance (within The Terminator). No other terminator can host souls other than them (& this piece of info plays a vital part in The Terminator's Sacrifice (his final moments)) Bucky WILL have a nemesis (twin Fire Cactus and Ice Cactus) and four allies (a Super Commando armed w/ Camo Surprise, a Sky Trooper, and a Computer Scientist) wjich he will meet later.

Also, can Bucky host a spirit as well? I'll call it the Spirit of Preservation, a not-so violent version of a super snowstorm that can annihilate simple people or give them trauma and insomnia for the next 16 hours (I can't think of a cooler name). Even the Terminators can be traumatized, but not get annihilated, by this. Nice concept...But the spirit part? That's too much. It breaks the trademark of my two characters (as said, check this: according to The Terminator, only he & Kassandros are the terminators with spirits (& no, terminators can see through disguises, they can identify invisible people, other terminators & spirits, so they cannot "not know" stuff like that...))...Second, terminators experience little fear at all (or, as in the case of THE Terminator, no fear at all), so there's no way terminators can experience trauma. As I said, they're almost like machines: no emotions, no pain, no fear, no pity. They stop at absolutely nothing, & they will do anything, even at the cost of their own lives, to destroy or ensure their target's survival.

Oh, & man, unless the fiery assassin was Fire Cactus, The Terminator or Kassandros won't terminate Stalin, since there's nothing good to gain from his assassination or its effect on the future, really. It won't change the timeline. At most, he would most probably assassinate plants that would prove to be a very big headache in the future. So yeah, I retcon that part of Kassandros doing that in your RP.

As I said man, you can't use my characters (plants & zombies alike) for the purpose/scene you initially thought of for Bucky, so if you plan to have him beat Kassandros or a Necro-Expendable, forget it. You are right. It is the Fire Cactus who assassinated Stalin. But Bucky feels squishy through what he sees. He would think it's Kassandros or the Terminator but eventually I'll reveal that it is her (yes, Fire Cactus' a girl) without anyone getting hurt in that current battle (since I scedule the revelation of the assassination to be in a battle). The effect of the assassination is what caused to the uprising of the Necro Soviet. Zomboss thanks Kassandros even though it wasn't him. There be also witnesses of the assassination but all died except for one who is zombified (the Camo Commando) which he will met later.

And about the spirit, I wouldn't add it. And it is not like Bucky would defeat Kassandros. Like Arca'Mundo thinked, he would beat Kassandros in a duel but not. Even though he is a time watcher and a great archmage, he has little knowledge of terminators.

Also, your saying that terminators do not have feelings. So they wouldn't worry about the deaths of their love ones or a family member then. Just asking.

One of Arca'Mundo's relics will make a main role to the story too.

Hamsburg Archives: It is a book kept in Wild West and it keep very important historical events. It is mainly made up of 15 pages, each have written texts written in Latin (it is the language Arca'Mundo talks most). These pages must not be stained, burned, rewritten, or esase because it will create total catastrophe. Each of the pages are kept in different states in the west...except for one that Zomboss found. Sorry for being an idiot man...Ugh, school is really taking a toll on my brain...Sorry for the rage...

And yes. If The Terminator has to kill Marielle or Violet (if they turn evil, though that won't happen), he can do so ruthlessly without any second thoughts. If he feels that Dave could threaten the timeline, he could terminate him immediately. If Kassandros thinks Zomboss is getting in the way, he would brutally shred him down. Terminators only ally themselves with others to help gain more quests, but they don't really consider anyone to be their boss, although The Terminator & Kassandros once both were generals of Alexander The Great (in fact, this is the reason why Kassandros hates The Terminator...yeah, Kassandros was a human then, he only became a terminator when he died)...(plus, Alexander would not be a zombie, & I determined that he won't make appearances unless in a flashback)

Also, new story, where I would primarily portray female characters. Can I also consider the twin cacti as terminators? But before that, I want to ask what is this punishment given to terminators when they break the rules (the one you talked about above)? Terminators follow no one, remember? There's no sort of terminator overlord who will punish them or anything. They would do anything just to fulfill their missions, even if it means a massacre. As said, they would stop at nothing to fulfill their missions. They can't be reasoned with or bargained with at all. You cannot change their minds unless "reprogrammed" (it's a secret I prefer not to reveal for now, though I say now, The Terminator, Kassandros, Jack, Marrows, & eventually the two new terminators (as seen in Expendable 007) already had themselves rendered immune to such "reprogramming")

Junglestalker will have it that his terminator gets "reprogrammed" though. Let me just reveal the twins...

Harbinger Twins: The twin cacti of fire and ice gets corrupted after many flaws of completing their mission. A corrupting programm (from unknown source) entered their mindset, making them merciless. They have the power to siphon other terminators powers (is that legal?) to use it as their own. They use these power to massacre almost everyone. They discovered that most terminators want to destroy them on what they have done. They are now on their quest to destroy some of the most important persons in history.

You decide in what you are gonna do with them. Also, they're rogues. They will destroy anyone who wants to destroy them. Their corrupted system is no longer rebootable. Not really robots like the real terminators though. The terminators here are living beings, not cyborgs, although they act like cyborgs (but no, they are not androids that suffer robot flaws or viruses. They are living beings with a brain, not a CPU).

Terminators can copy voices, & in the case of T-1000, copy individuals with their powers, but never really get the whole full strength of one. Plus, not even T-1000 can copy other terminators, so yeah, that's not supposed to be able to suck other terminators' powers. They can only copy other people's powers, but not terminator powers. So yeah, the siphon ability, scratch that or limit it to work only on normal plants/zombies, not on other terminators. Plus, terminators are not supposed to seem like the Superman or Avengers or X-Men or Batman, but rather something else, much more like time-travelling assassins or protectors instead of mutants.

Oh, & man, please avoid making too many terminators. In fact, I suggest that neither the Cacti nor Bucky become terminators at all, for, truth to be told, it doesn't seem to fit them, really. They should rather be something else, because they fit more in the traditional superheroes/supervillains vein instead of as terminators. Your right, they shouldn't be terminators. But Bucky will still switch sides eventually and make his other team (in this case, not the Necro Expendables). The Harbinger Twins however, they can (probably) make a fair fight against your caracters, I dont want the same thing you did for Bucky would also happen to them. They weren't corrupted by some programm, they corrupt themselves. The programm I'm refering is the multiple revolutions that swept in history, causing them to kill every leader they thought as evil. They can also travel through time by themselves. Their only weakness is having them separated in a great distance, it powers them down.

They can't be terminators but other beings (as powerful as terminators but with a different purpose). Bucky remains as a normal human until Arca'Mundo gives him powers to fight back against the Twins. Maybe it's best if your characters stick to as what you originally intended: super soldiers, results of military experiments, making them mutants like the X-Men, as strong as Superbean or CitroCop (but still unable to suck energies from or compare to terminators). The two Expendable groups of mine will end up clashing, & thus both aren't able to deal with the Harbinger twins, which are free to spread havoc since the two groups aren't around to threaten them. Bucky drives them off before the two Expendable groups break from their fight.

No man, as I said, the only fair fight I can arrange is Expendable vs. Expendable. I would not allow you to have those two Cacti do what you originally planned Bucky to have done. I repeat: it's really only Expendable vs. Expendable, & since there are only two real groups of them (not including the Expendabelles, these two groups cannot be replicated)...yeah, you get what I'm trying to say, right? In the end, I'll just show a rare event happening: the two Expendable groups team up, & end up forcing the twins to retreat, promising to terminate them on sight the next time they encounter the Cacti. The Preservers are like the Terminators, they keep time safe from paradoxes. However, they do not use their powers to kill although they can fight. When a Preserver gets to wrathful, violent, and bloodlust, then they became like the cacti.

Also, I will still make a Terminator (for real this time). He is a Computer Scientist. He is the father of the computer scientist Bucky will became allies with. He got killed as he got electrecuted by his own laptop while trying to repair it from getting virus. I'll reveal more info later. Yeah, except for the organization fact (terminators have no real group or allegiance, they are usually solitary assassins/guardians) a bit too much like terminators...

Yeah, & when a dead guy becomes a terminator, he still retains his memories, but he loses the emotions, so it wouldn't really make sense for him to hide the fact that he is a zombie out of concern. He would just hide his terminator identity for infiltration purposes, to pass off as a normal guy, but the fact that he's a zombie? He won't hide it unless his mission requires him to pretend not to be a zombie (remember, sometimes terminators take missions from allies, but then again, they usually give themselves their own missions to either alter or fix the timeline). Cyphin still has his memories but no more emotions. It's not like he love his son, although he can destroy him whether it's kinda threatening, but he doesn't want his family to get to the dangers he is facing with (the Harbinger Twins). He even didn't know that  Mineski turned into a zombie because the last time he saw his son to deliver the cursed laptop, he still human.

And the Preservers are not a faction. If your Terminators are assassins, my Preservers are diplomats and peacekeeper. They use their powers in forms of natural disasters to prevent the paradox to altering time. They will have an important role in Bucky and the Zombified Squad's RP.