Board Thread:Plants vs. Zombies 2/@comment-24843074-20161207133938/@comment-24275721-20161211140102

Legofan9o5 wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote: Legofan9o5 wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote: Legofan9o5 wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote: Legofan9o5 wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote:

We all know that balancing/nerfing the zombies would have done the trick but no, they opted not to. So since they are not going to do that now...

Whatever they chose here, ultimately in this PLS system. it is a benefit and that's what matters in the end, whether fair or not. If they would have wanted to, they would have done it by now. ...if they did then we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. I am saying I should be able to reach a higher value than just 212 because that's when the game starts becoming unfair and shows bollocks at you. I do care about both parts of the game but the main game is too meta for PLS and the EZ needs it.

But since I have already cleared the main adventure, there is no reason for me to go through it again and thus choosing the EZ is a better option... So in short, you guys missed out your turn to complain about how unbalanced the zombies were while bickering about how "OP" the plants were (which they really weren't at that time). Good job.

So make two profiles then. One for fully upgraded plants and one for normal gameplay. Has that ever occured to you instead of "cutting the game in half"? Has that ever occured to anyone who's complaining about breaking gameplay? The choice is mine, but why does the system favor only the other side of the game? That's the nature of P2W and making profiles is an option. ...If you you use boosts and constantly use powerups or buy extra PF, you win easily... It's been pretty well established that EZs are a completely separate beast compared to normal ones so ofc they have to be taken as two different gameplay modes... You seem to be under the impression that everything in the game has to go your way and exactly the way you want even though there are clear alternatives. Yes, it's directly P2W because it directly has an incentive to buy coins and gems which was never before. You're wrong on this one as someone who's willing to upgrade without much resources will very easily be suckered into buying stuff (which they want).

That is why this system is introduced at such a later game timesense when most people won't have anything to do with the main game except for newcomers and very minor people who replay older levels. Also since you also have the option too upgrade partially, you can always upgrade midway to make easy levels a bit easier while making harder ones a breathing room giving it a middle edge for game concepts.

What I've said useless is geared towards zombies which you missed the point. Plants have been nerfed/buffed in later updates but zombies except for Wizard (and even then I don't notice any changes) have never been changed. That's what I meant is useless when compared to your "easy fix". Why would I say that when I myself know that so many plants got botched between updates? I won't.

Even in science, sometimes a formula cannot be simplfied because of the numerous variablesit has to count. The theory of partial displacement for example, was simplfied by using mass of vacuum as constant (which it really isn't) and thus the other factors such as gravity, particle motions all had to be reworked which meant that even though it was simplified, it still wasn't simple enough in the long run. You have to accept that not always does a theory adapt everything so simple for a community; once in a while it has to be complex and this is one of those times.

What you suggested indeed saves time but at the same time keeps that same old formula and in games, overhaul is a very common thing. In science (going by your example), a formula is always updated and now it is the time to update what the plants can do. There are variables around that (different profiles, partial upgrades, null upgrade process etc), you have to just select it yourself. Even though I heavily disagree with your thought proces because it's one dimensional to one context of pretense, the one thing I do agree is that it can use a system to turn off/on the PLS. Maybe we can email them once they release this to give them an idea.