Board Thread:Plants vs. Zombies Wiki Discussion/@comment-5797509-20140421205454/@comment-5792287-20140424080518

Brainulator9 wrote: Milesprower2 wrote: Brainulator9 wrote: Lightning Reeds, in my opinion, are only useful against Zombie Chickens when stuff like Spikes and nuts aren't present as well as in groups. When you get down to it, Bonk Choys, Lightning Reeds, Kernel-pults (maybe), and Gloom-shrooms all have trouble taking down Coneheads ON THEIR OWN, meaning that they work best in groups or in combination with OTHER plants.

But to be honest, I believe that THERE ARE NO USELESS PLANTS, even if they are deprecated later on. I have no problem respecting others' opinions, though. Bonk Choys...have trouble taking down Coneheads but even with lots of support they just aren't worth using.

Lightning Reeds obviously have trouble taking out Coneheads, but when spammed, they can take down grouped Bucketheads.

Kernel-pults are luck-based, although they're OP in PvZ2 because they stun for longer, and in large amounts in either game they can often stun infinitely.

Glooms can't take out Coneheads on their own row, but can take out infinite Coneheads in adjacent rows. A single supporting plant (Pumpkin or Garlic) is good enough to let it take out Coneheads.

"NO USELESS PLANTS"?

Chomper: Like a slower Squash, how's it useful?

Bonk Choy: I mean...three times a Peashooter's attack speed? Great! Range of only 1.5 spaces? RUBBISH! Lack of crowd control? RUBBISH! It's even more useless in versions 1.7 and up since there are more zombies, and it sucks at AoE.

Law Pea: Okay, kind of stretching it a bit here by going for a Garden Warfare Plant, but...this thing is probably the most underpowered character in the entire game. It's like the EPIC Agent Pea, but with worse accuracy, less ammo, less damage, no ammo upgrade, and a longer reload...regular Peashooter is better. Did you even effing BOTHER to read the bold text? And under your logic, aren't Cacti and Planterns useless, too, since Blover do their tasks as well and does it MUCH better? Isn't the Peashooter useless because it can barely take on a Peashooter on its own? Aren't the Iceberg Lettuce and the Spring Bean useless because it can only freeze one zombie at a time? What if those plants you say are useless save your skins? What if you use Gloom-shrooms with Tall-nuts? And most of all, why did you need to "counter" my opinion and have to the same to yours rather than respect my opinion LIKE A NORMAL PERSON WOULD?

THIS IS WHY THE WIKI IS FALLING APART. TAKE NOTES AND I WILL have a rant blog out eventually. Firstly, on the internet, a normal person would counter almost any opinion.

Secondly, the plants I listed are never useful, even when you first get them, the bold text said that even if they are useless later on, they are always useful when you first get them, I was just trying to disprove that.

Thirdly, I didn't list Cactus as useless because it's useless only once you have Blover, not before you get Blover. And I like Planterns even after I get Blover.

Fourth, Peashooter can barely take on a Peashooter? Lelwut?

Fifth, Gloom-shrooms can't shoot past Tall-nuts, because they're too wide (unless I remember incorrectly).

Sixth, Iceberg Lettuce is great for early stalling no matter how high you are in an Endless Zone and it can stop tons of Garg Primes with Plant Food. Spring Bean meanwhile can OHKO a Garg in Pirate Seas, making it good for early Gargs regardless of how high you get in an Endless Zone. AND SPRING BEAN PLANT FOOD PLUS BLOVER EQUALS MASS DESTRUCTION.