Board Thread:Plants vs. Zombies 2/@comment-26239911-20151123170319/@comment-24275721-20151127184009

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Anky is super original!!! Come at me!!! Best worst joke ever. I'm not joking! Let's see: Zombot Plank Walker is just a combination of Thyme Warp and Gargantuar! Why? Zombot Plank Walker is just a gargantuar with a lot of health, the ability to throw multiple imps, and the ability to smash two rows combined with thyme warp's summoning ability! Now... Why is anky unoringinal? It's just a raptor that kicks zombies more tiles forward, kicks multiple zombies at once, and stays at the back combined with mecha footballs plant pushing ability! See? It's the same! So if you think anky is unoringinal, you must think the same for Zombot plank walker!
 * The first four Zombots are all the same. None of them have anything to differentitate them; other than their HP. So basically all of them are obviously unoriginal (except for the first one which came out and peoplr were surprised).


 * You can't compare something that came later with something that came way earlier. If anything, the warp ability of Thyme Warp is a re-skinned ability from the Zombot.

1. That's why all of the original four Zombots are basically same with just different missile attacks. They are nothing new like Mastodon or Gondola etc. The first game Zombot is however a different story.
 * Ankylosaurus is basically Raptors but pushes the zombies while their feet is attached. This is made so that players cannot use Blover on them as they are not in air (unlike when raptors kick them). So basically minus that ground pushing, Ankylosaurus is just a Raptor re-skin plus Mech Football ability combined. Hence, it is unoriginal. Even the description you gave about Anky gives the impression that it's the same as a Raptor only a somewhat different one. So yes, it is obviously unoriginal.

2. You compared Plank Walker's ability with Thyme Warp's meaning your English basically meant Plank Walker copied Thyme Warp's warping ability (read your own post for reference if you have trouble believing me) while I am comparing Anky with Mecha Football as Mecha came first and that ability was copied to Anky. There's a difference in how we use "with" and " as to" in comparisons. In English, there's a difference. I'm comparing a new thing with an old thing while referencing the old one while you were compared the old with the new while referencing the old one. The second scenario cannot work logically. Note, we can compare old with the new obviously (we always are) but in sentences they sound different. So no, I am not commiting to the same thing.

3. Anky pushes zombies forward and if plants are there obviously it will go right into our defenses. It's the same with Raptors and Breakdancers. That's kind of given. Whatever the case, both dinos push zombies into our defenses. As much as I hate to admit it, that fugly T-Rex is more original than Anky. It is like a temporary Turbo button but only for the zombies. 1. Exactly! I could give the same description for the first zombot!

2. Maybe my English said that, but I didn't mean it. I was giving an example!

3. So you think pianist is un-original because it smashes plants like barrel roller? 1. Give reasons then

2. Even if you didn't mean that or not, your sentence meant it. I cannot understand what you mean by intention through a screen. You have be more expressive.

3. No it's original because it uses music to change the lanes of zombies. No other zombie in the game does that. When a Zombie has an ability that is never possessed by or seldom possessed by any other zombie, it is unique and original. Jester, King, Wizards, Octos, Hunters etc are original as they do not have other counterparts. Arcade zombie is similar to Troglobites but Troglobite itself is original since it came first. Pianists also get destroyed with one spike based plant and then does nothing else whereas Barrell Rollers will still give out two Imps from within. So they do have a difference. If there were Imps hidden inside the Piano, then it would have been unoriginal as that ability would be similar to BR. Face it, no matter which angle you're coming from, Ankylosaurus is unoriginal and uninspired as crap (especially since we get another dino in the same world that does pretty much the exact thing).

One more thing, you should write the word itself as "unoriginal" and not "un-original". The umlaut isn't necessary as it's an actual word that is used. 1. Zombot Sphinx-inator is is just a gargantuar that summons zombies, smashes two rows at a time, and has a ton of health combined with tomb raisers ability.

2. Well now you know.

3. The ability to use zombies to push plants is unique! You also know that it's the only long ranged pusher too! How 'bout the fact that no other zombie (yes I consider dinos to be zombies) can push multiple zombies without a jam! What about the fact that it's the only zombie pusher that doesn't have a weakness in blover! Add that to it being the only zombie to push plants a number of tiles that isn't fixed! It all depends on where your plants are positioned. If the plants are at the back, they won't be pushed at all! And their are probably more that I'm missing... 1. Again, you have to be more clear about that. Whenever you are talking about the "First Zombot", you have to be clear about which one you're mentioning. Otherwise, I keep thinking about the Zombot from the first game (since it was the first Zombot). That's the reason why I asked you to elaborate. If you are talking about AE Zombot, then I've already told you that it's just as unoriginal as the other Cyclops Zombots. So #1 and #2 are dealt with.

3. Here again, if you are to go by facts, you have to consider the facts and facts alone. First of all, you cannot count dinos as zombies as they are not. Just because you are counting them as such, doesn't mean it's factual. So you cannot compare Ankys with Breakdancers since both are regarded vastly differently. I understand that BDs can't push zombies without their jam but all they are good for is kicking zombies and here's the same thing with Ankys (whether they specifically react to jams or not). Also, now speaking of Anky, just blatantly copying and pasting will raise eyebrows, so obviously each "clone" has to have something added to them. Here it's the immunity against Blover with more range on that lane and also, I don't think Ankys can use zombies to push plants. They just push zombies and not plants (unless I missed that). Basically speaking, since both the dinos put zombies right into ur defenses on the same row, the Raptors and the Ankylosauruses feel similar to me. Sure the methods are somewhat different, but the effect is the same. That is why people compared these dinos to other zombies when they were first leaked; because they were similar to what we have already seen with minor changes. Again, I agree that there are changes but they are minor addedums to a very similar ability. The only dino that I can see with any kind of unique abiility that has nothing to do with throwing (as in physically launching) zombies into your defenses is Dog Rex (since all other dinos do the same thing but in somewhat different ways). 1. I never talked about Zombots until you brought it up comparing Plank Walker and Thyme Warp. Also, in most of your replies YOU kept talking about the first zombot. Unless you are particularly talking about something here, YOU should mention which "first Zombot" you're talking about since YOU were the one to bring the Zombot comparison in the first place. So again, you need to mention them more clearly as to which "first" you're talking about here since I was not the one to bring that point up.

2. I never compared Anky with other Zombies especially when there are Raptors who do pretty much the same thing eventually. And if they do push plants then that is again basically a Mecha Football for the dinos (not a comparison but a reference; there's a difference between these two words). Also, I have given my reason as to why most dinos are the same. They just physically launch other zombies into your defenses. Ptero picks them up, Anky pushes them, Raptors kick them, Stego flings them. So basically their method is different but the effect is the damn same everytime. Even though it pushes plants, I would still think that dino as unoriginal as it is basically another "creature mod" of Mecha Football on a longer range scale. Pushing plants as a creature is not that original or interesting to begin with; if you think that this simplest thing is original, you must really have a horrible taste of imagination and free will. Now you'll say that Turqouise Zombie is original because it fires lasers from a skull when Garg Primes do the same thing basically.

Let me give an example of something that Anky could have done that would have been really original: Uses that mace tail to create a small tornado that slowly sucks both plants and zombies towards it making the whole game a Turbo Button from the left (as everything would have been sucked towards the right), That is original as nothing (and I mean nothing) in the game does that. That's why people criticise so much. When we as simple players can come up with better and creative ideas for gimmicks that really shows what Popcap is struggling with. That's what the criticisms are for. Case Closed. 1. I may have brought up zombots, but YOU were the first to bring up the first zombot.

2. So zombies coming at you from the back is what you call "the same thing." So you think zombies flung onto other lanes is "the same thing." Interesting is an opinion, so don't try that one on me. And I would NEVER say that thing about garg prime!

3. A video just came out. Anky pushes zombies a variable number of tiles! 1 and 3 fair enough. I'll look deeper into that.

2. The reason I consider them all as same is basically because of the effect. No matter which way the dinos try, the zombies always end up in our defenses. I've said this probably four times now but since the effect is basically zombies in the midst of your defenses, I'll consider them the same. It's a matter of different perspective. You consider them different because of their methods, I'll always consider them the same because of their outcome (cause at the end that's what matters when you're playing a level). We have different approach on the same matter. Honestly, you'll never be able to convince me that Anky is original (because of my perspective) and same goes for you where I won't be able to convince you that it isn't.