Board Thread:Plants vs. Zombies 2/@comment-5760976-20160716233003/@comment-25546049-20160722211644

Alright, so I'd played a bunch of levels with Aloe and Kiwibeast, and here are my results vs. my expectations:

Aloe:

Expectation - Gimmicky

Result - Trash

I rated Aloe very optimistically compared to most everyone else after I thought of the synergies with Garlic, Endurian, and Sweet Potato. Turns out though that the synergies with SP and Endurian just don't end up helping them all that much. Garlic on the other hand benefits very heavily from Aloe. I think Aloe is a good plant in Garlic strategies. The only thing that's keeping me form putting Aloe as the worst plant right now is his synergies with Garlic, Chard Guard, and Kiwibeast.

Kiwibeast:

Expectation - Average

Result - Above Average, maybe even Good

Kiwibeast on the other hand as blown me away with how strong he can be. If Kiwibeast can get set up on like a Basic Zombie or a Conehead, then he absolutely destroys people. From my tests, two large Kiwibeasts are all that were needed to take out an Excavator before it can even touch Kiwibeast. One column of large Kiwibeasts can handle infinite Bucketheads in the middle three rows. Two columns of large Kiwibeasts are enough to win a level almost on it's own. Kiwibeast is fairly bad vs. Wizards, as expected, but it's not as bad as you'd think, especially if the Kiwibeasts are close to the front, where they can hit the Wizards. Vs. Octos, they did quite well, even though I only tested them vs. BWB Day 17. They were able to handle that level pretty well with the help of Power Lily and Hurrikale. No Grapeshots were used to kill anything in that level, it was all Kiwibeasts. Vs. Weasels, Kiwibeast is actually pretty good. The Weasels will quickly grow Kiwibeast to the large size, allowing him to absolutely destroy the rest of the Weasels around him as well as the zombies. Finally, i tried him in Neon Mixtape Tour, and it didn't go over all that badly. Sure, he's not great vs. a lot of the zombies there, but if you can grow your Kiwibeasts to large, then NMT is actually not bad. Just note that if you do take Kiwibeasts into NMT that they need A LOT of support. I had to bring Shrinking Violet, Hurrikale, and Grapeshot to get through that bad early game.

I do think that Kiwibeast is gonna be pretty bad vs. Gargs, though. Since they destroy him instantly, he has no time to grow.

Finally, as I've said before, Aloe + Kiwibeast is a great synergy. While I haven't looked at the exact numbers, a large Kiwibeast at full health has around the same HP as a Celery Stalker (which isn't bad!). And because zombies are constantly getting close to Kiwibeasts, maybe getting in 1-2 bites every once in a while, Aloe helps maintain them, making them nearly invulnerable. Unless things can somehow get behind the Aloe, (and there are a few zombies that can do that) this combo is great.

All in all, I'm happy we got these plants. Aloe is an interesting kind of useless, and Kiwibeast is an awesome plant. I guess being in devleopment hell for 1.5 years was worth the wait!

Aloe is going in the F--tier, because he does suck a lot lol.

Kiwibeast is going in the A-tier, at the bottom. He's fairly hard to use, and requires some support at points, but when he works, he destroys levels badly.