Board Thread:General discussion/@comment-25083348-20160302021950/@comment-27275617-20160303130416

SmokingCrop wrote: Masteragon wrote: SmokingCrop wrote: Lily8763cp wrote: The damage needs to be back to normal, less homing and nerf her HP to 100. However, the most OP is the charged damage, which can do 70. THIS IS WHY PLASMA PEA WAS OVERUSED! THIS SAME EXACT REASON! THAT OVERPOWERED CHARGE MOVE! Yeah, + tracked shot + fire damage + ability to spam more tracked shots right after..

They can fire whoever came up with that idea. I don't know why you don't know this, charge moves are NOT OP. They can take out an enemy easier - every 10-12 seconds. Otherwise, you are slightly weaker than a normal plant. That is assuming they don't make a comeback with an ability(like an All-Star's tackle or Imp Punt) or dodge it entirely. The Frost Rose's charge might be a bit OP, but not the Fire Rose. The Fire Rose's charge is slow enough for a Scientist to Warp, an All Star to put down cover, an Imp to dodge, a Soldier to Rocket Jump over/away from, a Captain Deadbeard to enter a Barrel, a Super Brainz to jump over or block with Super Twisters, and an engineer to Jackhammer away from.

SC: But Masteragon, abilities have to be used!

So? It's a charge attack. The enemy is now weaker than normal. And if that Fire Rose has a Time Snare? Still a Scientist, Soldier, and/or Imp(and probably an All Star and/or Super Brainz) can still evade. Maybe even an Engineer can get away on a Turbo Jackhammer.

Back on track: I am fine if the regular Rose gets a damage nerf, but it must be compensated by a larger magazine size.

lol. It's OP as hell. period. end of story. These two rounds were far too easy to do, I quit playing as rose after that. The Tracking is just insane. You barely have to aim, you can aim way off and still hit everyone..

Fire Rose round:

http://i.imgur.com/S523BcD.png?1

Normal Rose round:

http://i.imgur.com/x9yBa8b.png?1

You just don't want your only chance at being OP in a game nerfed... In case you can't read or have no memory, I said that I SUCK as the new non-Beta Rose. All of my argument comes from an unbiased perspective. For Single Player Flag of Power, I'd use her any day, but I melt like butter in Multiplayer.

I'll admire your ability to completely ignore what I've said. At the end of the comment you quoted, I said specifically that I​ don't mind a damage nerf, as long as it is compensated by an increased magazine.​ If she can kill with a single mag, I don't care how long it takes(unless it's 5+ seconds).