Board Thread:Plants vs. Zombies 2/@comment-26239911-20151223153227/@comment-24275721-20151226202751

Мит бой wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote: Мит бой wrote: TheGollddMAN wrote: Coolyoyo33 wrote: Dekagamer7X9 wrote:

TheAnonymousA wrote:

Dekagamer7X9 wrote:

Pmhpc wrote:

The Ancient Pult Ancestor wrote: Coolyoyo33 wrote: So guys, I analyzed shadow shroom and now know his attacking stats.

He does 5 damage every 3 seconds for 30 seconds aka dealing 50 damage in total. BOOM! OP? YOU CALL THAT OP?! THE BEST THING TO KILL IS A DAMN KNIGHT, THAT'S ALL!!!

How about zombies who have full PHYSICAL health, huh? How about those zombies that don't have armor, yet survive a lot, huh? Primal Mine certainly outdoes this. Chili Bean does outdo Shadow-shroom to some extent as well in my eyes. I don't care if it spreads out the damage, the thing is, it's still not a god plant! The only thing OP about him is his PF. But unlike Primal Potato or Chili Bean, it recharges in 10 seconds. Let's not forget that Shadow-shroom also affects machines. Chili Bean doesn't.

As for Primal Potato Mine, I do think it's pretty overpowered, possibly a bit game-breaking. I never said anything about it since I thought everyone would disagree. It would make more sense if Primal Potato Mine took longer to arm. So when we get OP zombies and weak plants, everyone complains about the plants, and when we get an OP Plant, everyone wants to nerf it! Like I said already, OP plants aren't the solution to OP zombies. The game's challenge and (subjectively) it's fun, comes from finding solutions to deal with hard levels without just being able to decimate everything in sight. And, like Shadow-shroom, Grapeshot, Cold Snapdragon, and Sun-shroom, Primal Potato Mine makes many other plants useless. The only downside I see to it is that it has to come into contact with a zombie to explode.

Funny how before we found out what it does, I suggested it could be a Potato Mine for 75 sun that didn't need to arm and exploded in a 3x3 area. And people told me it was a terrible idea. And then we get essentially that, and nobody wants it changed. I do agree with you to a certain degree though, shrinking violet (which is upcoming) is very game breaking, combined with imitater it's a weapon of destruction.

Serioulsy? Violet takes 90 HP from them, which is same as cherry bomb AND it neutralizes imp(s) Yes, seriously. When something is shrunk, you would expect them to be weak. Even though gargs become small, they shouldn't be able to kill a plant in one hit that twice their size. That is absurd. You know what absurd? That glitter creates rainbow because of pop music. Or kings create helmets out of air with scepter.
 * Continuing from above, even though small, Gargs can still smash your plants in one hit. That feels ridiculous to me. When they are shrunk, they should automatically be weaker.

You want logic only when it makes plants stronger. And PopCap puts logic where the players could suffer problems by actually implementing that (like you cannot put underground plants on Lily Pads or Banana Launcher cannot be planted on minecarts). So don't judge me when the game itself sometimes put logic and sometimes doesn't.